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DAT 6/25 Who Cares? (Part 6)

Posted on 6/25/24 at 3:04 pm
Posted by Off McVoy
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Posted on 6/25/24 at 3:04 pm
It’s all been a mirage. No chance it continues.

Blow it Up
Posted by DalenSA
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Posted on 6/25/24 at 3:12 pm to
It would be so on brand for this team to turn around and lose to the Rockies after what happened over the last week
Posted by MasterJSchroeder
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Posted on 6/25/24 at 3:29 pm to
Feels like a 13H 1R kinda day
Posted by Chinqapin
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Posted on 6/25/24 at 3:36 pm to
Dana said today he hopes Kyle Tucker returns within 3 weeks


At this point we need proof of life
Posted by Jwho77
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Posted on 6/25/24 at 3:40 pm to


Posted by texastiger38
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 6/25/24 at 4:00 pm to
Dude will end up being out for 2 months for a shin contusion

His leg is probably broke and they just wouldn’t say it
Posted by High C
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Posted on 6/25/24 at 4:02 pm to
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Part 6


Posted by Jwho77
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Posted on 6/25/24 at 4:21 pm to
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Part 6


Posted by Uncle Mike23
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Posted on 6/25/24 at 4:25 pm to
Posted by cypresstiger
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Posted on 6/25/24 at 4:45 pm to
Gay pride night at MMP. Dress appropriately
Posted by Domeskeller
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Posted on 6/25/24 at 4:48 pm to
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Dude will end up being out for 2 months for a shin contusion


Michael Brantley, The Sequel
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
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Posted on 6/25/24 at 5:34 pm to
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Article from Chandler that puts into numbers what we've bitched about if any of yall want to cherry pick some quotes to post.


Basically coaches and players are aware of it. Part of it is by design, the coaches don't like our hitters chance in 2 strike counts so they're encouraged to be aggressive early. This correlates to low pitches per plate appearance, low strikeouts which is tied to seeing the fewest 2 strike counts in baseball. Only 2 teams have swung at more first pitches.

Chandler notes, as the chart above shows, the aggressive plate approach isn't new. We've had low PPPA for years but there's been a decline in walk rate, this would he our lowest walk rate since 2013 but there's also a high chase rate. We've got the 3rd highest chase rate at pitches out of the zone. ..

You would expect that in combining an aggressive plate approach with less skilled zone hitters like Pena, Diaz, among others. But it's no5 t just them. Generally disciplined hitters like Yordan and Bregman are chasing more than ever and famous bad ball hitter Altuve is striking out more than ever while posting the lowest outside contact percentage of his career .


So basically the aggressive approach isn't new but generally we've had disciplined hitters and selective hitters who force pitchers into the zone and get good pitches to hit rather than indiscriminately hacking at the first pitch you see in the zone.
This post was edited on 6/25/24 at 5:41 pm
Posted by TigerFan91
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Posted on 6/25/24 at 5:50 pm to
Yep too many of the same type of guy in the lineup like Meyers pointed out.

Tuck, Yord, Breg are really the only ones that I’d trust their swing decisions if they constantly get in 2 strike counts. Dubon, Pena, Yainer, Jake, now Loperfido are all basically toast if they get to two strikes so they NEED to get to the heater early if they are looking to do damage.

Wonder if the slow start as a team have made Yordan, Breg, and Tuve more susceptible to bad swing decisions/more punch outs. Very good read thanks for bringing it up in the old thread
Posted by Uncle Mike23
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Posted on 6/25/24 at 6:03 pm to
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Michael Brantley, The Sequel


How dare thee? I resemble that remark.
Posted by DalenSA
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Posted on 6/25/24 at 6:08 pm to
The Dubon at 1B experiment continues. Hell yes!
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
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Posted on 6/25/24 at 6:18 pm to
It's good to have not only through data but through the team that confirmation of what we see. That there was clearly a specific team emphasis on being aggressive early. From a birds eye view of the offense, the numbers are good. They are at or near the top in average, make contact, don't strike out.


The problem I see, is that the early swinging is not controlling the at bat particularly when a pitcher gets into a jam. Contact is great, things cant happen if you don't get the bat on the ball and put it in play. But it seems like there's more emphasis on simply making contact rather than making contact with a pitch you can do damage with.


It's interesting to me that Bregman was talking about the chasing etc he was doing when things were going poorly and talks like he's gotten out of it and it's true he is hitting better. But he's still striking out and a career high rate and he's not walking. He's hitting, I'll take it. But he's still not Alex Bregman. Since that May Oakland series, his full season pace would be 105 strikeouts to 48 walks. This is a guy that walks almost 100 times a year. So he's still not rediscovered the peak of his skills
This post was edited on 6/25/24 at 6:19 pm
Posted by 81Tiger
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Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 6/25/24 at 7:08 pm to
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But he's still not Alex Bregman.


I’ll take the line drive Bregman of late over the 365 ft Crawford Box Bregman.
Posted by jclem11
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Posted on 6/25/24 at 7:19 pm to
Checking in from section 156 tonight.

Are we going to win?
Posted by jclem11
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Member since Nov 2011
9541 posts
Posted on 6/25/24 at 7:21 pm to
Good AB from Bregs there.
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
70768 posts
Posted on 6/25/24 at 7:21 pm to
Did Tuve hurt himself on the slide?
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