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Southern Baptist ban on women pastors fails in historic vote
Posted on 6/13/24 at 10:08 am
Posted on 6/13/24 at 10:08 am
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INDIANAPOLIS — The Southern Baptist Convention rejected Wednesday a constitutional ban on women pastors, a major victory for those within the nation's largest Protestant denomination seeking to maintain local church autonomy and soften what many considered a growing antagonism toward women in ministry.
The narrow outcome resolved a two-year political dispute about church policy, though it might not subdue the ensuing debate about women’s roles in the church. The proposed amendment was by far the most animating issue headed into this year’s SBC annual meeting, one that even colored other decision-making — including the election for SBC president.
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Posted on 6/13/24 at 10:11 am to Seldom Seen
Preaching power?
Those aren’t Christian women. Those are commies infiltrating another church to tear it apart.
Those aren’t Christian women. Those are commies infiltrating another church to tear it apart.
Posted on 6/13/24 at 10:11 am to Seldom Seen
If Christians would worry more about what the Bible says than what the SBC, or ANY other denomination says, there would be no need to vote on anything like this. It’s clear.
Posted on 6/13/24 at 10:11 am to Seldom Seen
Patriarchal societies will dominate non patriarchal societies.
Civilization depends on the threat of violence by men.
Posted on 6/13/24 at 10:14 am to TrueTiger
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Patriarchal societies will dominate non patriarchal societies. Civilization depends on the threat of violence by men.
If anyone downvotes you, just take a look at what’s happening in Europe. They let women run the whole show. Now, dominate Muslim men are moving in and taking over.
Posted on 6/13/24 at 10:15 am to Seldom Seen
Most of the big Southern Baptist churches have just been calling them “directors of such and such” or something similar for years anyways.
They get around the no women pastors thing with name games and semantics.
They get around the no women pastors thing with name games and semantics.
Posted on 6/13/24 at 10:17 am to Seldom Seen
Baptists are well on their way to being another pop band session with a cheerleader and donuts thrown in for good measure type of church.
Putting particular faith aside, every religion has structure and sacrifice. It's interesting only Christianity seems to have been ripped to shreds by those who want to be "spiritual" but basically do whatever the hell they want, anyway.
Transpastors are next, btw.
Putting particular faith aside, every religion has structure and sacrifice. It's interesting only Christianity seems to have been ripped to shreds by those who want to be "spiritual" but basically do whatever the hell they want, anyway.
Transpastors are next, btw.
Posted on 6/13/24 at 10:18 am to TrueTiger
Always has.
Posted on 6/13/24 at 10:19 am to Seldom Seen
Any church that bends to social demands isn't a church of God.
Don't be lead astray by false religions
Don't be lead astray by false religions
Posted on 6/13/24 at 10:21 am to roadGator
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Preaching power?
Those aren’t Christian women. Those are commies infiltrating another church to tear it apart.
I think that may be painting with too broad a brush. I know plenty of women who hold leadership roles in churches in various different ministries including worship, children's, students, etc and they aren't remotely woke at all.
Posted on 6/13/24 at 10:23 am to Seldom Seen
“Let your women be silent in church” is pretty clear and unambiguous.
As in so many other institutions, women are seeding the downfall of the SBC. It’s inevitable that they’ll bring in feminist politics.
As in so many other institutions, women are seeding the downfall of the SBC. It’s inevitable that they’ll bring in feminist politics.
Posted on 6/13/24 at 10:25 am to DesScorp
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“Let your women be silent in church” is pretty clear and unambiguous.
Is that contextual or is that an "all time" command?
Does that mean women should also not sing in worship, serve in kids ministry, have their heads covered in service as well?
This post was edited on 6/13/24 at 10:26 am
Posted on 6/13/24 at 10:25 am to Sus-Scrofa
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They get around the no women pastors thing with name games and semantics.
Yep, and I see no issue whatsoever in women holding leadership roles in women’s groups and the like, but when it comes to Pastoral roles over the church, then scripture is clearly restricted to men, and there are plenty of scriptural reasons for this, but in a purely pragmatic reasoning, men by nature are more rational, logical, and rule driven by the book creatures, while women are driven largely by their emotions, and that’s why these kinds of things are appealing to many of them who allow their emotions rather than what is written to drive them. Nurturing and emotions are critical to a relationship and raising children with balance to man’s God given leadership and rational attributes, but not when it comes to leading the flock in the spiritual direction a church must go. That should never be up for debate. We should simply turn to scripture to find God’s thoughts on the matter, and the answer is crystal clear.
This post was edited on 6/13/24 at 10:28 am
Posted on 6/13/24 at 10:27 am to Mike da Tigah
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men by nature are more rational, logical, and rule driven by the book creatures
Yeah, King David was really thinking with his correct head when he impregnated another man's wife and then murdered him to cover it up.
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Yep, and I see no issue whatsoever in women holding leadership roles in women’s groups and the like
That's logically inconsistent. Either women are to be silent or they're to speak. Did God say they should be silent unless they're preaching to a female audience?
This post was edited on 6/13/24 at 10:29 am
Posted on 6/13/24 at 10:27 am to JiminyCricket
I am talking about two lesbians holding signs about preaching power.
Do the women at your church hold those signs?
Do the women at your church hold those signs?
Posted on 6/13/24 at 10:29 am to roadGator
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I am talking about two lesbians holding signs about preaching power.
I wasn't aware they were.
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Do the women at your church hold those signs?
No
Posted on 6/13/24 at 10:31 am to Seldom Seen
I'm Baptist but we shouldn't be following religion. We should follow Jesus
Posted on 6/13/24 at 10:31 am to JiminyCricket
First they send the lesbians with brown hair. Then it’s the lesbians with green hair.
Then it’s the trans freak preaching on Sunday and you wonder what happened to your church.
No Christian would ever hold a sign saying Preaching power.
Speaking truth to power ring a bell?
Then it’s the trans freak preaching on Sunday and you wonder what happened to your church.
No Christian would ever hold a sign saying Preaching power.
Speaking truth to power ring a bell?
Posted on 6/13/24 at 10:31 am to Mike da Tigah
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If Christians would worry more about what the Bible says than what the SBC, or ANY other denomination says, there would be no need to vote on anything like this. It’s clear.
And who compiled the Bible? Organized Christianity
Who interpreted it for the layman?
Organized Christianity
Who stopped the Muslims from conquering Christendom?
Organized Christianity
Some of you Prots remind me of Mormons. Y’all think the Bible just magically appeared in the woods, and love to forget the ancient roots of our faith
This post was edited on 6/13/24 at 10:32 am
Posted on 6/13/24 at 10:33 am to JiminyCricket
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Yeah, King David was really thinking with his correct head when he impregnated another man's wife and then murdered him to cover it up.
If a man and women’s nature were not driven by desire to sin in his flesh, there would be no need for a savior, or repentance, forgiveness, and restoration, all of which David also exhibited rather than blaming it on someone else.
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Either women are to be silent or they're to speak. Did God say they should be silent unless they're preaching to a female audience?
It says nothing about women speaking to women about women issues that women are familiar with in being a sound Christian woman.
It does say that a woman should never have leadership over a man. That’s what it says.
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