re: Southern Baptist ban on women pastors fails in historic vote

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It does say that a woman should never have leadership over a man. That’s what it says.

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Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says.

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It says nothing about women speaking to women about women issues that women are familiar with in being a sound Christian woman.

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Seems like they shouldn't speak at all here.

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If a man and women’s nature were not driven by desire to sin in his flesh, there would be no need for a savior, or repentance, forgiveness, and restoration, all of which David also exhibited rather than blaming it on someone else.

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That's a strawman. The argument wasn't about sin. Your argument was that men were more logical, less emotional and thus less prone to making poor decisions.

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Ask the UMC about slippery slopes.

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I'm sure you feel strongly about your position but allowing a godly woman to speak or lead a kid's ministry and allowing a trans activist to be senior pastor are not the same thing biblically at all.

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And who compiled the Bible? Organized Christianity

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Paul is an apostle, and organized Christianity did not compile the Bible. The early unorganized Christians did from all over the place when they came together to compile the Bible as you say.

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Who interpreted it for the layman?
Organized Christianity

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There is no need to interpret that which is very clearly written.

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Some of you Prots remind me of Mormons. Y’all think the Bible just magically appeared in the woods, and love to forget the ancient roots of our faith

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Funny, because the modern Christian with all their progressive thoughts remind me exactly of the Jews fashioning the golden calf to worship. That is exactly what you do when you interpret scripture to fit what you want it to say rather than what it clearly says. You simply create your own god to worship, and that’s what false teachers do as well. The world is littered with them in every denomination and every sect, because God’s words are hard, and we want to fashion God in our image rather than conform ourselves to His. It’s an age old problem than only goes away when we bend our knee to God rather than man.

I’m not against that.

I’m against commie lesbians infiltrating the church.

Again, no Christian is going to hold a sign saying “preaching power”.

That’s the language of commies. Can you not see that?

I was not generalizing to all women. Just those women in that picture

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Southern Baptist Convention

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INDIANAPOLIS

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Just about guarantee they also believe those same women can be Gay too.

It should be noted that 61% voted in favor. Guess it means you have to have 75 or more for it to pass. So at least a good majority still hold to the principle that women shuold not be lead pastors.

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Do you believe women should be completely silent in church and always enter with their heads covered?

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I think everyone should be silent in church, and let order rule in church gatherings, which is exactly what Paul was getting at. I also think people need to be more modest in attire instead of showing their wares or attraction, which is also what Paul was getting at. He was addressing a different church and different culture than the ones we are accustomed to, but the point remains to maintain order in the church, dress appropriately, and conduct yourselves like Christians rather than the world. That was the point he was driving home.

I hope you don't take offense to my line of questioning, I really mean no disrespect. However,

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I think everyone should be silent in church

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But that's not what the word says. It isn't written that everyone should be silent. It's written that women should be. If Paul meant it for everyone, why didn't he write it that way?

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and let order rule in church gatherings, which is exactly what Paul was getting at. I also think people need to be more modest in attire instead of showing their wares or attraction, which is also what Paul was getting at.

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I don't disagree. I think the context of that whole letter was written to a specific church with specific issues they were struggling with at a specific time.

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He was addressing a different church and different culture than the ones we are accustomed to

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This was my entire point. Lots of folks take only the women portion of his letter but omit the other points he makes. My contention is that the entire passage was written for a specific purpose, not necessarily as an all time commandment.

What was considered the authoritative writings was agreed upon by the end of the first century and later formally put together as the Bible we know today. The Holy Spirit interprets the scriptures for us as believers in Christ. We are to check everything a preacher, etc. says by the Bible.

I am a member of a large SB church. We have and have had women serving on our staff. Yes, we get around the "pastor" label by calling them "Minister or Director of ..." But the lead pastor, according to the scriptures should be a man. Why, I don't know. You'd need to ask God and the Apostle Paul.