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I'm convinced education's steep decline began and continues today for 3 main reasons!

Posted on 6/13/24 at 9:41 am
Posted by SwampyWaters
Member since Apr 2023
1901 posts
Posted on 6/13/24 at 9:41 am
As a veteran teacher, I have seen first hand the enormous educational decline in students today compared to 20 years ago and it's getting worse every year. Today's students are much lower academically, more disrespectful/aggressive and parents are much less involved in their child's education and it shows.

The days of Billy and Susan walking into the classroom quietly and beginning their work is a thing of the past, but I attribute this change to 3 main reasons:

1. Removal of God from the classroom - sadly, these days you even mention God in the classroom, you could get written up, fired, or some radical group might show up outside your school protesting.

2. Removal of good, old fashioned discipline - when teachers/administrators loss the ability to spank a student, the classroom was changed forever and not for the better. Today, students will tell you that you even touch them in any way that they're going to sue you. These days a student can curse you out, walkout of your class, bully/assault others, bring drugs to school, steal and destroy school property and they will be suspended for a few days, but will be right back in your classroom.

3. Removal of old fashioned teaching - today, we think computers are supposed to teach our children, but they've become more of a problem than an asset. Call me old, but there is a tremendous amount of value in a pencil and a piece of paper. I can remember doing my multiplication chart over and over, until I finally got it all right and my parents said I could stop. Today, we care more about optics and not reality. School systems across the country want everything to appear great, but the reality is social promotion is alive and well, even if the student barely picked up a pencil all year. School systems care more about making the numbers look good, regardless if a student can read or write.

The reality of education is we are falling further and further behind each year and it's only going to get worse. As a teacher only a few years away from retirement, I often wonder what lies ahead for future teachers. There is already a shortage of teachers and young teachers are quitting every day because they want to be a teacher, not a babysitter. Sadly, we all know nothing will change, which means less teachers and more students going out into the world without the basic skills needed to hold a job. The good news is the numbers will still look great and those in charge will continue to get big pay raises for a job not well done.
This post was edited on 6/13/24 at 10:06 am
Posted by low end
504/985/225/713
Member since May 2024
391 posts
Posted on 6/13/24 at 9:43 am to
The real answer is shrinking budgets and poor parenting.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
130730 posts
Posted on 6/13/24 at 9:44 am to
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education's steep decline began and continues today for 3 main reasons!
I'll give my own 3 reasons for public education's decline:


1) Teachers unions.


2) Teachers unions.


3) Teachers unions.
Posted by Gabapentin
Member since Mar 2022
374 posts
Posted on 6/13/24 at 9:44 am to
Cellphones
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
30468 posts
Posted on 6/13/24 at 9:45 am to
Well, I agree with number 3 at least
Posted by theliontamer
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2015
1361 posts
Posted on 6/13/24 at 9:46 am to
Some of these public schools just seem like a lost cause and waste of tax payer money. Parents need to take responsibility of their children.
Posted by bird35
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
13075 posts
Posted on 6/13/24 at 9:46 am to
Most Southern States don’t have a powerful teacher’s Union.

Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
20183 posts
Posted on 6/13/24 at 9:49 am to
Disagree on all 3 points. If God, spanking and old fashioned methods were the key to good education, black kids raised by their religious granny would be top of the class. Not that the things you pointed out aren't important, I just don't think they're the main issues.

The real culprit is the deterioration of the family structure which leads to a parent that doesn't give a shite, so school is more of a daycare to get the brat out of the house for the day than a learning environment. You're with your kids twice as much as a teacher is, they learn from you.
Posted by Paddyshack
Land of the Free
Member since Sep 2015
10709 posts
Posted on 6/13/24 at 9:49 am to
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1. Removal of God from the classroom

That's going to trigger some folks, but you're not wrong.
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2. Removal of good, old fashioned discipline

Yup. Parents are mostly at fault for this. But putting ballcuffs on teachers' ability to discipline students plays a part as well.
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3. Removal of old fashioned teaching

Prime example: common core math. Dumbest shite ever.

Smartphones and social media are a huge problem as well. I would also add that government-funded educational systems are a failure, as with most things the government touches.
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
55411 posts
Posted on 6/13/24 at 9:50 am to
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3. Removal of old fashioned teaching - today, we think computers are supposed to teach our children, but they've become more of a problem than an asset. Call me old, but there is a tremendous amount of value in a pencil and a piece of paper.


But muh "sage on the stage"

It worked for a reason.
Posted by Audustxx
Member since Jul 2022
1860 posts
Posted on 6/13/24 at 9:50 am to
I have heard parents calling public schools the “free babysitter “.
Posted by Purple Spoon
Hoth
Member since Feb 2005
19270 posts
Posted on 6/13/24 at 9:51 am to
Single parent households are the single biggest threat to society including learning environment.

Everything else is a distant second.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
55382 posts
Posted on 6/13/24 at 9:51 am to
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Today's students are much lower academically, more disrespectful/aggressive and parents are much less involved in their child's education and it shows


Get out of public school, and go to private. Your quality of life will improve.

Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
55382 posts
Posted on 6/13/24 at 9:52 am to
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The real answer is shrinking budgets


Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
19066 posts
Posted on 6/13/24 at 9:53 am to
Was wondering when the pushback will start - could parents/former students sue because of the dumbing down of education?
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
98406 posts
Posted on 6/13/24 at 9:53 am to
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As a veteran teacher,


Public or private?
Posted by Limitlesstigers
Lafayette
Member since Nov 2019
3781 posts
Posted on 6/13/24 at 9:54 am to
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shrinking budgets

Primary education funding has kept up with inflation and surpassed it in some areas

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Poor Parenting


This is 100% of the reason but you'll never see it addressed. Liberal parents think work, discipline, and accountability=punishment. Conservative parents tend to think of every teacher as enemies indoctrination their kids because they watch too much TV and social media of a small % of crazy liberal teachers.
It's basically political suicide if you "blame" the parents.
Posted by rowbear1922
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2008
15570 posts
Posted on 6/13/24 at 9:54 am to
Never a teacher, but…

The truly biggest reason is the decline in family units and parental involvement

God shouldn’t be in a public classroom
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
40397 posts
Posted on 6/13/24 at 9:55 am to
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As a veteran teacher, I have seen first hand the enormous educational decline in students today


Thank you for your service. I’ve long said if more of our military folks would take their experiences and pass them down to the next generation as educators we would see vast improvement in the education system.
Posted by Man4others
Member since Aug 2017
2345 posts
Posted on 6/13/24 at 9:55 am to
too many women as teachers or in positions of leadership within the schools
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