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How Do You Know If A Lawyer Is Charging A Reasonable Fee ?

Posted on 6/12/24 at 8:47 am
Posted by The Torch
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Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 6/12/24 at 8:47 am
We have a "dumb arse" family member who has been charged with Burglary of a Habitation (2nd degree felony) and when he was stopped they found one Adderall in his car in an unmarked bottle. (third degree felony).

He's 17 but charged as an adult in Texas, charges are in two different courts.
Has priors as a juvenile

Parents are half wits and broke so they've asked us to help.

Lawyer quoted $25,000 to defend both charges.
Posted by JimTiger72
Member since Jun 2023
11698 posts
Posted on 6/12/24 at 8:48 am to
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Lawyer quoted $25,000 to defend both charges.


That’s not a fee, that’s a retainer. What is their rate?
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
70402 posts
Posted on 6/12/24 at 8:50 am to
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Has priors as a juvenile
Lack of impulse control is expensive.
Posted by Kcrad
Diamondhead
Member since Nov 2010
61806 posts
Posted on 6/12/24 at 8:50 am to
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He's 17 but charged as an adult in Texas, charges are in two different courts.
Has priors as a juvenile
Any money spent on lawyers would be a waste. It sounds like he has already set his course. There's always the chance that getting locked up for a year or two might knock some sense into him.
Posted by BawtHouse
Member since Dec 2021
417 posts
Posted on 6/12/24 at 8:51 am to
It could be a flat fee, but you are more likely correct that it is a retainer. Request explanation via email.
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
23794 posts
Posted on 6/12/24 at 8:53 am to
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That’s not a fee, that’s a retainer. What is their rate?


It's a flat fee

The county he's charged in is still backed up due to Covid so it will take 9-12 months for it to go to court.
Posted by Sus-Scrofa
Member since Feb 2013
9828 posts
Posted on 6/12/24 at 8:54 am to
Probably not even a retainer, just his estimate of what this will cost to see it through.

You need to know his rate, and then people can comment on whether his estimate is accurate or reasonable.
This post was edited on 6/12/24 at 8:55 am
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
23794 posts
Posted on 6/12/24 at 8:56 am to
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You need to know his rate, and then people can comment on whether his estimate is accurate or reasonable.


It's a flat fee
Posted by UncleLester
West of the Mississippi
Member since Aug 2008
8356 posts
Posted on 6/12/24 at 8:58 am to
Has your family considered if it is better to have the nephew attempt to offer half the amount directly to the judge?

That would be in line with all the other stupid decisions that he has made.
Posted by JimTiger72
Member since Jun 2023
11698 posts
Posted on 6/12/24 at 8:58 am to
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The Reasonableness of a Fee

Fixed fees or flat fees can be an attractive alternative to hourly billing in different types of matters. They provide the client with some certainty about the cost of legal services and lawyers with more financial stability and consistency in taking on client matters.

When lawyers consider how they will charge for their legal services, the paramount benchmark of the analysis is Model Rule 1.5(a): “A lawyer shall not make an agreement for, charge, or collect an unreasonable fee or an unreasonable amount for expenses.” The demand for reasonableness of the legal services fee remains regardless of the method of collection.

LINK

Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
75332 posts
Posted on 6/12/24 at 9:01 am to
25k for a plea bargain that will be offered anyway?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282540 posts
Posted on 6/12/24 at 9:01 am to
Save the money.

He's going to get what he's going to get here. No need for a big lawyer bill.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
33915 posts
Posted on 6/12/24 at 9:02 am to
Does he have a job and/or make decent grades?

If not I’d wager that anything you spend on lawyer fees will be wasted.

But with 9-12 months he has time to get a job and pay the legal fees himself.
Posted by AndyCBR
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2012
7947 posts
Posted on 6/12/24 at 9:04 am to
Based on the limited info presented I would be inclined to let the public defender handle it.

Sounds like spending money on a real lawyer for this kid may be throwing good money after bad.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
34398 posts
Posted on 6/12/24 at 9:05 am to
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and when he was stopped they found one Adderall in his car in an unmarked bottle. (third degree felony).

Seems like that would hard to make stick. Could have been from anyone riding in the car.

That’ll be $500.
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
10960 posts
Posted on 6/12/24 at 9:06 am to
Assuming it is a flat fee (not an unusual arrangement for something like this), it isn’t an unreasonable fee. The main consideration is that the lawyer be a professional who knows what he’s doing and will be diligent in defending/resolving the cases.
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
27708 posts
Posted on 6/12/24 at 9:06 am to
How much is his freedom worth? Answer that question and you’ll know what is reasonable.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282540 posts
Posted on 6/12/24 at 9:07 am to
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How much is his freedom worth?



The used car salesman tactic.

Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
27708 posts
Posted on 6/12/24 at 9:11 am to
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The used car salesman tactic.


If you equate “buy this car or don’t” or “go to jail or don’t” then that’s your right.

I’m all for not overpaying if you doing have to. But there are certain things worth paying for.

For example, when I got lasik surgery I looked for the most expensive doctor in my area and said “you’re my guy”
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282540 posts
Posted on 6/12/24 at 9:12 am to
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If you equate “buy this car or don’t” or “go to jail or don’t” then that’s your right.


The kid will plea in the end.
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