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Not looking good for FDA to approve MDMA-assisted therapy

Posted on 6/4/24 at 5:47 pm
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
38191 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 5:47 pm
Today was the big public hearing of the advisory panel whose recommendations will very likely be taken up by FDA.

Archive of the livestream which include lots of vets and other people giving firsthand accounts of having their lives saved.
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An independent advisory panel of the Food and Drug Administration rejected the use of MDMA-assisted therapy for post-traumatic stress disorder on Tuesday, highlighting the unparalleled regulatory challenges of a novel therapy using the drug commonly known as Ecstasy.

Before the vote, members of the panel raised concerns about the designs of the two studies submitted by the drug’s sponsor, Lykos Therapeutics. Many questions focused on the fact that study participants were by and large able to correctly guess whether they had been given MDMA, also known by the names of Ecstasy or molly.

The panel voted 9-2 on whether the MDMA-assisted therapy was effective, and voted 10-1 on whether the proposed treatment’s benefits outweighed its risks.

Other panelists expressed concerns over the drug’s potential cardiovascular effects, and possible bias among the therapists and facilitators who guided the sessions and may have positively influenced patient outcomes. A case of misconduct involving a patient and therapist in the study also weighed on some panelists’ minds.

Many of the committee members said they were especially worried about the failure of Lykos to collect detailed data from participants on the potential for abuse of a drug that generates feelings of bliss and well-being.


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Letting the perfect be the enemy of the good. Utterly preposterous that MDMA is a Schedule 1 substance. So very clearly safer and less destructive than alcohol in nearly every respect.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
132930 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 5:48 pm to
Why do you need some alphabet agency to approve it?

Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
20329 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 5:51 pm to
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Many questions focused on the fact that study participants were by and large able to correctly guess whether they had been given MDMA

No shite? I'm just baffled people could pick up on this
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
58304 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 5:52 pm to
When is drug addicts pride month?

We let yall get married by decriminalizing marijuana and it’s been a slippery slope ever since
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
39750 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 5:52 pm to
Damn I just bought a collectors edition bassnector record
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
38191 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 5:53 pm to
quote:

Why do you need some alphabet agency to approve it?
I personally do not, but it's just good for society not to have things be illegal that shouldn't be.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71030 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 5:56 pm to
More studies and trials have gone into MDMA than the damn Covid vaccine, yet we rolled it out and pumped it into the weakest of the herd first. Makes perfect sense!
Posted by BeldarConehead
Indy
Member since May 2024
80 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 6:04 pm to
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Many questions focused on the fact that study participants were by and large able to correctly guess whether they had been given MDMA, also known by the names of Ecstasy or molly.


Wait, fricking what?

Do they expect it to have the same effect as a placebo?
Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
33624 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 6:09 pm to
Well how in the heck would those Big Pharma companies be able to make profits off of a readily available generic drug?
Posted by Saintsisit
Member since Jan 2013
5035 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 6:24 pm to
I wish I could take a Placebo and feel like I felt in the late 90's.
Posted by SelaTiger
Member since Aug 2016
21063 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 6:39 pm to
They still got them Mercedes, Mitsubishi, blue dolphins? They call it Molly now huh?
Posted by Mr Clean
Power I-Formation
Member since Aug 2006
53037 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 6:43 pm to
Try legal phenibut. Use sparingly. A little goes a long way.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21689 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 7:27 pm to
Hard to get a public benefit when the "independant" stakeholders are going to lose money on the deal.
Posted by Tiger in Gatorland
Moonshine Holler
Member since Sep 2006
9523 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 8:10 pm to
So essentially, what they are saying, is Lykos Therapeutics didn't pad the pockets of the politicians adequately.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
38191 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 8:35 pm to
quote:

When is drug addicts pride month?

We let yall get married by decriminalizing marijuana and it’s been a slippery slope ever since
Go enjoy your liquor-drug, hypocrite.
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
70466 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 8:38 pm to
Had a feeling this wouldn't fly. Bet the same happens for the LSD based anxiety drug. Honestly surprised Ketamine/shrooms have taken off so much and didn't get knocked back down.
Posted by James11111
Walnut Creek, Ca
Member since Jul 2020
5490 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 8:42 pm to
quote:

Try legal phenibut. Use sparingly. A little goes a long way.


Not sure why you are comparing phenibut to MDMA. Phenibut is a super mild benzo type drug that most people don’t even fell much from. It’s good for sleep problems, crazy dreams and very mild anxiety relief. That’s about it.
Posted by Mr Clean
Power I-Formation
Member since Aug 2006
53037 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 8:54 pm to
I didn’t say they were similar. I suggested an alternative that provides benefits.
Posted by pnwtiger91
Puyallup WA
Member since Aug 2021
54 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 9:22 pm to
It's Tesla now LOL
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
119867 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 9:25 pm to
I used to love Ecstasy/molly. The only bad think is that you have to keep hydrated and that shite makes you feel too good.
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