re: 4 year long study on Wegovy/semaglutide shows heart benefits and safety

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I am skeptical of the safety in long-term use

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This drug has been in use since late 70’s, early 80’s. It’s not a new drug.

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Good luck with your magic beans.

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It’s not a “ Magic bean “. . It’s a synthetic copy of a naturally occurring hormone that you already have . It reduces cravings and or allows food to process through the Gi tract more slowly . That’s all we are talking about. Maybe your angst is caused by a combination of completely justifiable suspicion of Big pharmacy and your lack of knowledge about what this actually is. Is there a reason you aren’t this angry about statins or things like other hormone treatments?

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Prominentwon

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Now go pull a list of FDA approved drugs that were later recalled

You might need to posts to list them all.

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All these people with all these other health issues like these should have just shut up and went to lift some weights, I suppose.

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And many of the drugs you listed would most certainly be made obsolete by positive lifestyle choices so not sure what point you’re making.

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Now go pull a list of FDA approved drugs that were later recalled

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And?

Should we stop advancing in medicine and trying to create new (or re-package old) treatments? Serious question.

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And many of the drugs you listed would most certainly be made obsolete by positive lifestyle choices

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If it were only this simple.

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It is simply about ego for him.

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I don't think you understood the reference

The suit of armor in the movie = his ego.

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It’s not a “ Magic bean “. . It’s a synthetic copy of a naturally occurring hormone that you already have . It reduces cravings and or allows food to process through the Gi tract more slowly . That’s all we are talking about. Maybe your angst is caused by a combination of completely justifiable suspicion of Big pharmacy and your lack of knowledge about what this actually is. Is there a reason you aren’t this angry about statins or things like other hormone treatments?

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Having people misrepresent the entire premise of your skepticism doesn’t help my suspicions.

I don’t doubt they work. The issue I have is that there will be consequences free repercussions from taking them. Tell me I’m a Luddite all you want but in my experience that occurs exactly 0% of the time in life.

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So how do you explain people that eat the same terrible food constantly, never work out, and maintain a low BMI?

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Those people don’t eat as much as you think they do. That used to be me. I never ate particularly healthy. But I didn’t eat all that much. I may have eaten a decent amount at one sitting, so if anybody was around me they’d think I ate a lot and a lot of junk and never got fat. The truth is my overall calories for the day was not what people may have thought it was.

Then I started weight lifting and bulking up. Gained some mass, got bigger. Then I eventually stopped lifting but kept eating like I was bulking. I gained a lot of weight.

Then I got tired of being fat so I ate several hundred less calories, ate healthier food, lifted some weights, and amazingly, I’m not fat anymore.

I don’t have some unique willpower, I just decided to do what it took to get back in shape and I did it.

There are people close to me who think they are doing what it takes to lose weight, but they’re not. Plus, they don’t stick with it. So then they think they can’t lose weight and there’s some problem. There isn’t. They aren’t doing what it takes to lose weight like they think they are. Just like people may have assumed I could eat anything and not gain weight. Their perception was off.

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If it were only this simple.

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His response to my last comment made it obvious that he’s being purposefully obtuse.

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His response to my last comment made it obvious that he’s being purposefully obtuse.

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I imagine their stances on psychology and psychological analysis/treatment are more ignorant than their stances on 20-year old medicine.

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There are consequences for malignant tumor removal and chemotherapy, too.

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No shite. Unfortunately no one here is arguing from a stance that the benefits outweigh the potential risks. The sentiment here is that this drug is risk feee.