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Seed oils make you FAT
Posted on 5/10/24 at 10:22 am
Posted on 5/10/24 at 10:22 am
I see a lot of posts about how different ingredients we use every day contribute to obesity for one reason or another. Some of the frequent targets are seed oils, like canola or vegetable oil, and margarine. People recommend olive oil, but it’s low smoke point makes it far from ideal for many cooking applications. I could switch to “real” butter, but I am mildly lactose intolerant, and I prefer something easily spreadable for making toast.
What are the substitutes I SHOULD be using in my cooking that can accomplish the same jobs as these allegedly unhealthy processed ingredients?
I ask this as someone who has been overweight my entire life and cooks the majority of my meals.
What are the substitutes I SHOULD be using in my cooking that can accomplish the same jobs as these allegedly unhealthy processed ingredients?
I ask this as someone who has been overweight my entire life and cooks the majority of my meals.
This post was edited on 5/10/24 at 10:23 am
Posted on 5/10/24 at 10:26 am to kingbob
Many other countries use seed oils and they aren't nearly as fat as we our. Out of control portion sizes should be a primary focus.
But to answer your question, use animal fats.
But to answer your question, use animal fats.
This post was edited on 5/10/24 at 10:27 am
Posted on 5/10/24 at 10:27 am to kingbob
It seems like not exercising enough and consuming too many calories may play a bigger role than what type of oil is used in the cooking process.
Posted on 5/10/24 at 10:30 am to SUB
I have been increasing my exercise and reduced portions over the span of the last 4 months. I am just looking at any other habit changes that could help with the process further. I remember what a big difference it made when I largely stopped drinking HFCS sodas, for example. I am looking into modifying my cooking/shopping habits to see if that can help maximize the benefits of reduced portions and increased exercise.
This post was edited on 5/10/24 at 10:31 am
Posted on 5/10/24 at 10:36 am to kingbob
Avocado oil, Beef Tallow, Canola Oil(Not bad at all for you)
Posted on 5/10/24 at 10:38 am to WigSplitta22
Can I buy beef tallow at the grocery store? Not being condescending. I honestly have no idea.
Posted on 5/10/24 at 10:40 am to kingbob
I see. I guess my point is that you'll see greater results by focusing on the exercise and calorie intake (not necessarily portion size, but that helps). Oil, to me, seems kind of negligible when it comes to losing weight, especially if you are overweight. How much does oil contribute to total calories of a meal vs the type of food you are cooking / eating?
Maybe at a specialty store like Whole Foods? But you can buy bacon grease pretty easily. It comes in a tub.

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Can I buy beef tallow at the grocery store?
Maybe at a specialty store like Whole Foods? But you can buy bacon grease pretty easily. It comes in a tub.

This post was edited on 5/10/24 at 10:42 am
Posted on 5/10/24 at 10:47 am to SUB
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Oil, to me, seems kind of negligible when it comes to losing weight, especially if you are overweight
Definitely. Looking solely at calories, there's essentially no difference between them
Posted on 5/10/24 at 10:57 am to kingbob
Clarify your butter and you'll raise the smoke point by 100 degrees
Posted on 5/10/24 at 11:18 am to kingbob
If you're looking to lose weight, you should track your calories.
If you want to get away from seed oils because they are unhealthy, then you can replace them with avocado oil, ghee, or animal fats.
I have no recommendation for a butter replacement, as we just use real butter.
If you want to get away from seed oils because they are unhealthy, then you can replace them with avocado oil, ghee, or animal fats.
I have no recommendation for a butter replacement, as we just use real butter.
Posted on 5/10/24 at 12:46 pm to WigSplitta22
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Canola Oil(Not bad at all for you)
Canola oil is a seed oil too.
Posted on 5/10/24 at 12:51 pm to kingbob
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Seed oils
This is really like the "thing" of the moment, isn't it?
Posted on 5/10/24 at 12:56 pm to Y.A. Tittle
Thanks to the enshittification of the internet, the outsized influence of an ever shrinking number of companies dominating our food supply, and the politicization of science, it is almost impossible to discern fact from fiction when it comes to researching nutrition on the internet as a lay person. This is largely a problem with everything right now, but the single question “are eggs good or bad?” Is enough to essentially cause the entire medical community to collapse in on themselves.
Posted on 5/10/24 at 2:44 pm to kingbob
Clarified butter is what first-class Western kitchens used to use for a high-heat, neutral-flavored cooking fat. You can make your own by heating butter gently, slightly above the boiling point, until the water boils off (it will stop bubbling), then pouring off the liquid part, leaving the separated milk solids behind ("clarifying" it).
Ghee is a form of clarified butter, although the Indian custom is to let the milk solids brown before clarification, which gives a nutty taste that is delicious, but not always desired. Although many products labeled "ghee" are simply clarified buttter, with no browned taste, because many are not aware of that distinction.
Beef tallow is also great for high-heat cooking. It can be rendered with a neutral flavor, but if it is rendered with muscle attached, it will taste beefy.
Coconut oil can handle high heat, but has a distinctive flavor, which may or may not work with your dish.
All of the above are traditional fats that humans have eaten for millennia.
Ghee is a form of clarified butter, although the Indian custom is to let the milk solids brown before clarification, which gives a nutty taste that is delicious, but not always desired. Although many products labeled "ghee" are simply clarified buttter, with no browned taste, because many are not aware of that distinction.
Beef tallow is also great for high-heat cooking. It can be rendered with a neutral flavor, but if it is rendered with muscle attached, it will taste beefy.
Coconut oil can handle high heat, but has a distinctive flavor, which may or may not work with your dish.
All of the above are traditional fats that humans have eaten for millennia.
This post was edited on 5/10/24 at 2:51 pm
Posted on 5/10/24 at 2:48 pm to kingbob
I've seen it on shelves in Albertsons.
Posted on 5/10/24 at 2:56 pm to WigSplitta22
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Canola Oil(Not bad at all for you)
Rapeseed oil was invented in 1974, rebranded as "canola" oil in 1978. It can only be made in factories. It exists because rapeseeds are very cheap to grow, harvest, and process, and because transnational agriculture corporations love money more than they care about health.
No one on this planet has the evidence to know if rapeseed oil is healthful for humans to consume over the long term. You are welcome to volunteer as a guinea pig for that experiment.
This post was edited on 5/10/24 at 2:58 pm
Posted on 5/10/24 at 3:01 pm to bluebarracuda
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use animal fats.
Yup. Tallow and lard are high smoke points and not unhealthy. Clarified butter and Avocado oil are your other two options. There may be others, but these are your best bet.
Posted on 5/10/24 at 3:18 pm to kingbob
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Thanks to the enshittification of the internet, the outsized influence of an ever shrinking number of companies dominating our food supply, and the politicization of science, it is almost impossible to discern fact from fiction when it comes to researching nutrition on the internet as a lay person. This is largely a problem with everything right now, but the single question “are eggs good or bad?” Is enough to essentially cause the entire medical community to collapse in on themselves.
you are so dramatic

Posted on 5/10/24 at 4:05 pm to Deactived
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you are so dramatic
Yes, yes I am

Posted on 5/10/24 at 4:17 pm to Epic Cajun
quote:This is what I typically use. I pick up a large container at Costco every few months
avocado oil
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