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Posted on 4/18/24 at 6:10 am to 3nOut
Hell I'm just getting to NYPD Blue and The Big Bang Theory.
Posted on 4/18/24 at 7:19 am to WestSideTiger
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The TV comedy is dead
This is the big problem, other than YT or Netflix comedy specials.
Posted on 4/18/24 at 10:10 am to 3nOut
quote:No
Are we in a golden era of TV right now?
There's so much NOT right with TV right now.
quote:You named shows, some of which lots of people think suck. Very few that that the consensus is they're very good.
Just watched the last episode of Shogun and it was one of the more gut wrenching hours of TV I’ve seen in a long long time.
Fallout is great. Bear is one of the best things in years. Gentlemen was one of the best spinoffs I’ve ever seen. Halo kinda righted itself. Succession had a great run.
White Lotus. Beef. Only Murders in the Building. Poker Face. Twisted Metal. Barry. Last of Us. Severance. Devs. The Old Man. Stranger Things. Witcher (S1&2.) 3 body problem. Peacemaker. Mare of Easttown. Yellowjackets. House of Dragon. Masters of the Air. What we do in the shadows. Could go on and on.
quote:If it were a GREAT show, don't you think you'd have remembered to keep watching? I mean, seriously. If it's something I look forward to, I make a point of seeing it.
but I’m to a point where I can’t catch up and there’s dozens of shows I haven’t even seen that I randomly stumble across or remember to watch
Now, on to some of the other issues with TV today; your list goes across several different services. Netflix, Prime, Max, Paramount, Apple, Peacock etc. That's not even counting the Disney+ shows, some of which (Mandalorian, Andor, Loki etc) are considered very good too. So you have shows spread across a multitude of services, some of which might be the only thing you will watch on that service. I'm not paying for all of them, I don't think it's a great experience to binge something in a week and then wait over a year for the next season.
And then we have length of season- 10 episodes, if you're lucky. Network TV would give you 25+ a season. Call it "filler" if you want, but if I love a show, I don't mind having a new episode every week. It's kinda like having cupcake games in college football; there's no drama when LSU plays Grambling, but I do get to watch LSU play, so that's better than no game.
Another thing I'd mention- the best currently to me right now is Shogun and Fallout. Shogun is a remake of a miniseries, Fallout is closely based on a game. There's nothing wrong with either show, but they're also not original concepts. Remaking a miniseries in particular- today's format IS miniseries, so they basically just dusted the old script off and reshot it. It doesn't go deeper, or do anything new (it can't if it is to stay true to the book). Again, it's done well, and I like it. But I've already seen it; and it's set in 16th Century Japan. There isn't something that happens that you couldn't portray back in 1980 or whenever the miniseries was made, that modern techniques show better. If anything, I would say some of the offshore scenes were better/more expensive in the original. The lighting was better in the original (the interior scenes are dark in this version).
I would say a "Golden Age" would have multiple shows EVERYONE watches, that are original in idea, that you don't forget about watching the next episode until the season is done.
Posted on 4/18/24 at 10:25 am to 3nOut
I would say the golden era was around the end of Sopranos, start of Breaking Bad, start of Game of Thrones. Lost was obviously on during this period also. So basically 2006-2012ish.
Netflix totally changed the game mostly in a good way but I also think the general quality has somewhat taken a dive.
All of these shows are just so far superior than anything we have gotten recently.
Netflix totally changed the game mostly in a good way but I also think the general quality has somewhat taken a dive.
All of these shows are just so far superior than anything we have gotten recently.
This post was edited on 4/18/24 at 10:27 am
Posted on 4/18/24 at 2:18 pm to Boodis Man
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Fallout is not great
I disagree. The level of detail on their sets as well as the cinematography is top tier. They are also doing a decent job in honoring the source material and retconning the things that don't matter as much to make it friendlier for TV. The cast and characters are the weakest part of the series IMO.
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Posted on 4/18/24 at 2:44 pm to 3nOut
No
The Golden Era of anything runs through the 80s into the 90s
Dallas
Dynasty
Magnum PI
MASH
WKRP in Cincinnati
Happy Days
The Jeffersons
Dukes of Hazzard
Simon & Simon
Newhart
The A-Team
The Cosby Show
Family Ties
Miami Vice
The Golden Girls
Moonlighting
Night Court
Murder, She Wrote
Taxi
Roseanne
Cheers
Home Improvement
Seinfeld
Friends
ER
Law & Order
2000s brought in a lot of reality and game shows. The golden era was over
The Golden Era of anything runs through the 80s into the 90s
Dallas
Dynasty
Magnum PI
MASH
WKRP in Cincinnati
Happy Days
The Jeffersons
Dukes of Hazzard
Simon & Simon
Newhart
The A-Team
The Cosby Show
Family Ties
Miami Vice
The Golden Girls
Moonlighting
Night Court
Murder, She Wrote
Taxi
Roseanne
Cheers
Home Improvement
Seinfeld
Friends
ER
Law & Order
2000s brought in a lot of reality and game shows. The golden era was over
Posted on 4/18/24 at 2:49 pm to RollTide1987
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The Sopranos
The West Wing
Band of Brothers
Six Feet Under
24
The Shield
The Wire
Battlestar Galactica
The Office
Deadwood
Lost
It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia
How I Met Your Mother
Rome
Avatar: The Last Air Bender
Friday Night Lights
Mad Men
Breaking Bad
The Big Bang Theory
Luther
Sherlock
The Walking Dead
Homeland
Game of Thrones
House of Cards
Orange Is the New Black
Better Call Saul
Black Sails
Stranger Things
The Crown
I've watched exactly ten episodes in total out of all of those shows, 6 of those episodes being the first 6 of season 1 of Friday Night Lights.
Posted on 4/18/24 at 2:54 pm to RobbBobb
I liked all of those shows back then, too. But most of them really aren’t that good.
Posted on 4/18/24 at 3:03 pm to 3nOut
quote:
Are we in a golden era of TV right now?
No, but we are in a golden era of video game adaptations into shows.
They used to be a joke, responsible for the absolute shittiest TV and movies.
Now, you have:
Fallout
The Last of Us
Cyberpunk: Edgerunners
Arcane
Castlevania
Witcher S1
Some not as great, but still fun shows as well, like Twisted Metal
There are plenty of misses, sure, but considering how bad video game adaptations used to be this really is its golden age.
Posted on 4/18/24 at 3:06 pm to witty alias
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I liked all of those shows back then, too.
I didnt like about half those shows, but they attracted far more eyes than anything today. Because it either reflected a part of life that didnt exist in the viewers world, or they saw great meaning or memories in the characters and stories being told
For example, I dont think I ever watched an entire episode of Golden Girls. It just wasnt my thing. However, it was top rated, because tons of the older generation could strongly relate to the characters
Posted on 4/18/24 at 3:32 pm to ouflak
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I've watched exactly ten episodes in total out of all of those shows, 6 of those episodes being the first 6 of season 1 of Friday Night Lights.
Do you just not like watching TV or something? I mean there are a ton of good shows on that list.
Not sure I'd agree with him as being the golden age because I think a 20 year range of shows is too broad of a time frame but it doesn't change the fact that that list has a ton of shows that are worth watching.
Posted on 4/18/24 at 3:37 pm to ouflak
quote:
I've watched exactly ten episodes in total out of all of those shows, 6 of those episodes being the first 6 of season 1 of Friday Night Lights.
thanks for letting us know.
"Dynamite drop in Monty!"
Posted on 4/18/24 at 3:53 pm to 3nOut
I wouldn't say the golden age, but there are a lot of good TV shows out there on streaming.
Network television is essentially dead to me, I can tell you the last time I watched a show on ABC, NBC, CBS, or FOX. It's just imply not as good of television as what's available on streaming.
I can't tell you the last time that I was watching a show and then felt like I had nothing to watch after. There has been in incredible amount of good shows to watch just in the past 5 years. Kind of blows my mind when I see people on here say they don't have anything to watch. Granted, I subscribe to quite a few streaming services and not everybody wants to do that.
Network television is essentially dead to me, I can tell you the last time I watched a show on ABC, NBC, CBS, or FOX. It's just imply not as good of television as what's available on streaming.
I can't tell you the last time that I was watching a show and then felt like I had nothing to watch after. There has been in incredible amount of good shows to watch just in the past 5 years. Kind of blows my mind when I see people on here say they don't have anything to watch. Granted, I subscribe to quite a few streaming services and not everybody wants to do that.
Posted on 4/18/24 at 4:26 pm to RollTide1987
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Nope. We just left it. I would argue the Golden Era of TV started in the late-90s with the premiere of shows like The Sopranos and The West Wing.
During the period from 1999-2019 you had the following shows premiere that really set the pop culture world on fire:
The Sopranos
The West Wing
Band of Brothers
Six Feet Under
24
The Shield
The Wire
Battlestar Galactica
The Office
Deadwood
Lost
It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia
How I Met Your Mother
Rome
Avatar: The Last Air Bender
Friday Night Lights
Mad Men
Breaking Bad
The Big Bang Theory
Luther
Sherlock
The Walking Dead
Homeland
Game of Thrones
House of Cards
Orange Is the New Black
Better Call Saul
Black Sails
Stranger Things
The Crown
And during this period of time, you still had The Simpsons, King of the Hill, South Park, Quality SNL, and the late night shows like Conan, Letterman, and Leno were still running and still funny and interesting. And for a good chunk of that time frame, The Daily Show was still funny.
Posted on 4/21/24 at 10:52 pm to ouflak
quote:
I've watched exactly ten episodes in total out of all of those shows, 6 of those episodes being the first 6 of season 1 of Friday Night Lights.
Is this a joke?
Posted on 4/21/24 at 11:07 pm to ouflak
quote:
I've watched exactly ten episodes in total out of all of those shows, 6 of those episodes being the first 6 of season 1 of Friday Night Lights.
You haven’t seen BOB?
Lucky. I’d love to see that for the “first” time again.
GOAT candidate.
You should refrain from the TV/movie board.
Seriously
Posted on 4/22/24 at 8:56 am to bountyhunter
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Fallout is not great
quote:
The cast and characters are the weakest part of the series IMO.
I don't see how the cast and characters being the weakest part makes a great series.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 9:04 am to 3nOut
You can’t really compare the present (cable network original programming
and streaming) with past decades (broadcast network programming)
and streaming) with past decades (broadcast network programming)
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