re: Is our Speaker compromised regarding FISA?

Do you have a link to this bill? Interested to read it.

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Is our Speaker compromised regarding FISA?

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No. As Tucker said, since he is Speaker he gets access to the highest levels of classified material. They have handed him a bunch of bullshite about "how dangerous" the world is without 24/7 surveillance of every man, woman, and child on earth. Nevermind that this surveillance has done absolutely nothing to make anyone safer. For example, Hamas staged a veritable military invasion of Israel and no one, including CIA or NSA, had a clue.

He doesn't understand that the IC can no longer be trusted - their "assessments" are often fraught with political considerations (in other words, bullshite). Congress really has no way of knowing if CIA or NSA is handing them a line of bullshite. In today's world, those agencies are always going to lobby for more power and money, so it stands to reason they will exaggerate threats to get what they want.

I am not arguing that we don't need to spy on China or other foreign governments. But that's not what 702 is about - 702 is about spying on Americans without warrants. If you want to spy on a guy living in the U.S. who might be a foreign agent, then get a warrant. It's not that difficult. But they don't want to do that because they want to spy on people who they know are doing nothing wrong. This is the entire reason Congress sneaked a provision in this latest revision that states that 702 cannot be used to spy on Congress.

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Congress sneaked a provision in this latest revision that states that 702 cannot be used to spy on Congress.

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notice they not only vote in their own COLA raises, but don't GAF about spying on the media, SCOTUS, or us!

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It’s been my position for about ten to fifteen years now that guys in dark sunglasses show you a history of your porno searches and dick pics sent as soon as you get elected to Congress.

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sin only has power in the darkness. we'd all respect him if he came out and admitted whatever. but it's probably tiered like this:
offer money, power, pleasure
blackmail
threaten family

there arent many of us who would be equiped to make it through that gauntlet without compromising our ideals.

but yes. there is a culture (and process) of corruption and debauchery. it's naive to think you'll be the one to change the culture. you'll either avoid it or it will change you.

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Different thread and yet, once again, you show you have no problem with government agencies spying on people.

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I didn't take his post that way at all. I took it to mean "does it surprEYES you that the FBeye and/or the CeyeA would access the man's vulnerabilities in order to pressure him?

When an individual reaches a pinnacle of power wherein their decision alone, can determine a critical outcome, the Lobbyists for the State (extraordinary Power) simply inform said individual of the consequences of their choice. Such being that they will OWN said consequences, because the MSM has power to paint an individual however they desire. Think Trump. Very rich, was very popular as the epitome of the male, American Dream, and now the most vilified person on the planet. Why, because he rejects acquiescing to said Extraordinary Power.

All but the strongest of 'martyrs' will acquiesce to signing off on a highly problematic and potentially pernicious issue of power, for one reason. Such reason being for the potential good that it can do, preventing terrorist slaughter in this current issue. AI is the prime and perfect example, as the 'Convergence' draws close to the choice of implementation. So is Genetic Engineering, as both have the potential to do great good and great harm as well. And a good personal will never be the one to reject an extraordinarily 'good' power, for the sake of what harm such 'MIGHT' do. Especially given the MILLIONS of lives that are on the table of non-action.

Humanity will proceed with AI and GE because of the potential good that such offers. Humanity will embrace Global Governance, because we can no longer afford the alternative; such being individual Nations competing with each other re Ideological/Political and/or Religious differences. Such traditional competition is no longer a logical option, given the suicidal consequences via the implementation of AI/Bio military weaponry. It would be the Fermi Paradox straight up.

I doubt that there is a single Poster on this Board, if we were at that pinnacle of power wherein it ALL came down to our single decision re a single issue (the prime example being the 'Global Government' unification of divided/competing waring Nation/States) and the inevitable and horrific end thereof, that we could resist the overwhelming logic to acquiesce to what MAY be a bad outcome. Any good person would have to take a chance on the greater good. Even God took a shot, assuming that there is God/Creation (I.e., that Energy is basically Self Aware, as we are in the form of a relatively minute limited Energy Entity. God being the Total Reservoir and Unified Energy version of Self Awareness).

With superior logic laid out along with the personal consequences, we would all fold like a wet noodle. NWS all the other points laid out in this Thread. I think this ship has sailed, or soon will. AI=based 'logic' will likely be the wind that pushes it.

Our best hope is that we indeed exist in a Spiritual Universe, and that Jesus - the basic 'Mold' of Limited Entities/'Children' - has this. Otherwise, we are a fleeting and poignant tragedy of what was, and could have been.

FISA was supported in large numbers by Republicans as late as 2018. Trump signed any and every FISA renewal put on his desk. Was he compromised? Or was that differen(T)?

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The Deep State would have engineered and allowed a 'terrorist attack' and hung it right around Trump's neck if he had resisted their policy.

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When faced with an uncomfortable truth, we will just add another layer to the conspiracy theory

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You don't think Trump would have just come out and said who was the cause of the attack? He's never been shy you know

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Exactly.

Just come out publicly and say he was threatened with a terror attack by the IC/DEMs, so that if they "engineer" one, they take the blame.

Trump has faults, but he's not that dumb to ignore the political opportunity.

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Exactly.

Just come out publicly and say he was threatened with a terror attack by the IC/DEMs, so that if they "engineer" one, they take the blame.

Trump has faults, but he's not that dumb to ignore the political opportunity.

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You must take into consideration in this concocted scenario, the spooky "deep state" is pulling the strings behind Trump's back and he is unaware of it. Which would by result keep Trump blameless for the hypothetical terrorist attack, while Trump can remain victimized, despite being in the most powerful position on the globe.

So at best he would be compromised to continue the FISA courts under fear of a terrorist attack being blamed on him, and at worst he's the most powerful man on the planet and he is unaware of a terrorist attack perpetrated by those that work for him.