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re: Jurassic Park - “We’ve spared no expense.”

Posted on 4/10/24 at 12:35 pm to
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 4/10/24 at 12:35 pm to
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I'm sorry about your financial problems Dennis, but they are your problems.


This brings up a valid point. Hammond may have compensated Nedry above and beyond, but Nedry was just an idiot with his money.

Case in point: I have an employee who is compensated above market rate plus an additional bonus plan. He decided he wanted to sleep around on his wife, and she took him for everything he as worth and then some. He recently came to me for a raise by saying he was barely making ends meet. I pulled a Hammond and explained his personal decisions to cheat on his wife and the repercussions are not my problem to solve. Granted, this person has a much lower level of responsibility than Nedry
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 4/10/24 at 12:43 pm to
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That quote is exactly my point. He went with the low bidder instead of “sparing no expense” and hiring someone better qualified.



I always took it as he "spared no expense" on the park itself, the customer-facing experience. But the quality of the park was mile wide, but only an inch deep.

Part of the message of the whole story is about man's hubris.... he was supposed to have created the best theme park/zoo in human history and revived long-dead species of animals.... all he really did was create something with such substantial flaws that one person could bring it crashing down, and create a bunch of mutant monsters that weren't even really dinosaurs (the last point is more novel than movie, but still applies).
Posted by Akit1
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2006
7767 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 12:45 pm to
Fun thread

I’d imagine Nedry had an impeccable background that caused Hammond to overlook his behavioral issues from previous jobs. Maybe Samuel L Jackson gave his stamp of approval? There’s also the side of moving to this island that cancelled out of a lot of other candidates
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
49951 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 12:57 pm to
What I haven’t seen in this thread is the mention of BioSyn paying off Nedry to steal the embryos. In the book they were a lot more prominent although in the movie they didn’t even get name dropped. Regardless a powerful rival company medaling in Ingen’s affairs
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
30016 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 1:01 pm to
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he said he chose dennis out of pity even against the advice of his staff, because he was family and wanted to give him a chance.


Wat
Posted by BigBinBR
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2023
5565 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 1:47 pm to
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Had he taken the time to properly vet his bidders maybe he would’ve seen that there were more trustworthy people than Nedry.


You are assuming that there were bidders. Nedry worked for InGen meaning he was likely in house IT and not a contractor.
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
16375 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 1:49 pm to
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Nedry WAS qualified. Problem was he was the ONLY person who was qualified to know what the hell needed to be done and to be able to do it.

This. The hiring of Nedry itself wasn't a problem just because he bid low. The work he did for the park was incredible.

Where Hammond cut corners was by not hiring more support staff to help Nedry manage the system.
Posted by UnluckyTiger
Member since Sep 2003
37515 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 1:59 pm to
Is Dr. Wu an absolute shithead in the original book? I had no idea he would go on to be such a huge thug pos in the later movies.
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
29730 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 1:59 pm to
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IT is always an afterthought. The necessary evil


I’m in network cybersecurity. I’ve had a quote for email security sitting on a customers’s desk for 5 months.

Last week they had a phishing email go out to their entire company asking people to fill out personal information that a few thousand people answered in a Google doc sheet.


Guess who got a Purchase Order for email security this week?
This post was edited on 4/10/24 at 2:00 pm
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
152084 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 2:06 pm to
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Also Lex is 5 years old which makes more sense rewatching the scene when Tim’s arse could have easily handed Ellie the shot gun instead of just watching Lex

Most frustrating scene in the movie for me.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
22892 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 2:44 pm to
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That’s just how they feed them, no? They have their own paddock I’m pretty sure. At one point Muldoon asks if the raptor fences are still working and they check. He wouldn’t ask that for that tiny little enclosure where they feed.
No, why would they move the raptors from one place to another to feed when every other dinosaur gets fed in its regular paddock? Set the food out for the raptors just like they did with the goat for T. Rex

In the opening scene of the movie where the worker gets killed by a raptor, they were trying to load the raptor into that same enclosure.

Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
22892 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 2:53 pm to
Even if Nedry doesn't shut off the power, its still just one fence in a jungle setting on an island in a region where tropical storms/hurricanes are a potential issue. Only a matter of time before the island takes a hit from a tropical system that packs enough punch to knock some big trees down on top of those fences.

They would have had to cut down a wide enough area on both sides of the fence to leave no trees close enough to potentially fall and land on the fences.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
119757 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 2:58 pm to
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No. It never would have gone off w/o a hitch b/c at the end of the day Hammond is still the cheap fly by night huckster he was when he was running a flea circus.

Hammond's constant claims of spared no expense are really just him lying to everyone about what he has done while trying to wish his claims into existence. It's clear corners were cut all over the place.

Why do you think he bought an island in Costa Rica? It was to avoid any kinds of regulations he was obviously flouting. Why do you think he refused to listen to reason and kept the Raptors alive? He isn't willing to eat the financial loss. Why do you think he hired Nedry? He didn't want to pay for a proper IT team b/c his arrogant arse thought it was just some nerd shite and wasn't worth the coin.

Also, it's not really obvious in the movie but in the book it's heavily implied Igen also lied to Nedry about the scope of project. When he balked they blackmailed him into staying by ruining his rep w/his other clients which was the source of his money problems. You kind of sort of get that when they argue about money but it's left more open ended since Hammond refuses to talk about it.

Hammond might come off as a nice old man just trying to do something incredible but he's actually a massive a-hole and completely deluded himself into thinking he's some sort of mastermind when he's just a dude who bought a company and is forcing unrealistic goals on everyone.


This is good stuff
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
36624 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 3:11 pm to
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Hammond might come off as a nice old man just trying to do something incredible but he's actually a massive a-hole and completely deluded himself into thinking he's some sort of mastermind when he's just a dude who bought a company and is forcing unrealistic goals on everyone.


Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
49951 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 3:27 pm to
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Dr. Wu an absolute shithead in the original book? I had no idea he would go on to be such a huge thug pos in the later movies.

Yeah he dies in the book too same with Hammond
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
30016 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 3:45 pm to
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Also, it's not really obvious in the movie but in the book it's heavily implied Igen also lied to Nedry about the scope of project. When he balked they blackmailed him into staying by ruining his rep w/his other clients which was the source of his money problems. You kind of sort of get that when they argue about money but it's left more open ended since Hammond refuses to talk about it.


Bingo. As someone who's in project management, a part of me empathized with Nedry's predicament.

quote:

Hammond might come off as a nice old man just trying to do something incredible but he's actually a massive a-hole and completely deluded himself into thinking he's some sort of mastermind when he's just a dude who bought a company and is forcing unrealistic goals on everyone.


Book Hammond is a massive tPOS, and if Spielberg was trying to convey that for the movie, casting Richard Attenborough was not the best choice.
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
30016 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 3:46 pm to
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Is Dr. Wu an absolute shithead in the original book?


No, but he's more arrogant than in the original movie.
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
30016 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 3:47 pm to
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Most frustrating scene in the movie for me.


Still pisses me off 30 years later.
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
30016 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 3:49 pm to
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You are assuming that there were bidders. Nedry worked for InGen meaning he was likely in house IT and not a contractor.


Nedry is a contractor in the book.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
29651 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 4:49 pm to

Hey, he did get Richard Kiley to narrate.


So there's that.


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