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re: Jurassic Park - “We’ve spared no expense.”
Posted on 4/10/24 at 12:35 pm to Tangineck
Posted on 4/10/24 at 12:35 pm to Tangineck
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I'm sorry about your financial problems Dennis, but they are your problems.
This brings up a valid point. Hammond may have compensated Nedry above and beyond, but Nedry was just an idiot with his money.
Case in point: I have an employee who is compensated above market rate plus an additional bonus plan. He decided he wanted to sleep around on his wife, and she took him for everything he as worth and then some. He recently came to me for a raise by saying he was barely making ends meet. I pulled a Hammond and explained his personal decisions to cheat on his wife and the repercussions are not my problem to solve. Granted, this person has a much lower level of responsibility than Nedry
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Posted on 4/10/24 at 12:43 pm to CocomoLSU
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That quote is exactly my point. He went with the low bidder instead of “sparing no expense” and hiring someone better qualified.
I always took it as he "spared no expense" on the park itself, the customer-facing experience. But the quality of the park was mile wide, but only an inch deep.
Part of the message of the whole story is about man's hubris.... he was supposed to have created the best theme park/zoo in human history and revived long-dead species of animals.... all he really did was create something with such substantial flaws that one person could bring it crashing down, and create a bunch of mutant monsters that weren't even really dinosaurs (the last point is more novel than movie, but still applies).
Posted on 4/10/24 at 12:45 pm to CocomoLSU
Fun thread
I’d imagine Nedry had an impeccable background that caused Hammond to overlook his behavioral issues from previous jobs. Maybe Samuel L Jackson gave his stamp of approval? There’s also the side of moving to this island that cancelled out of a lot of other candidates
I’d imagine Nedry had an impeccable background that caused Hammond to overlook his behavioral issues from previous jobs. Maybe Samuel L Jackson gave his stamp of approval? There’s also the side of moving to this island that cancelled out of a lot of other candidates
Posted on 4/10/24 at 12:57 pm to Akit1
What I haven’t seen in this thread is the mention of BioSyn paying off Nedry to steal the embryos. In the book they were a lot more prominent although in the movie they didn’t even get name dropped. Regardless a powerful rival company medaling in Ingen’s affairs
Posted on 4/10/24 at 1:01 pm to keakar
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he said he chose dennis out of pity even against the advice of his staff, because he was family and wanted to give him a chance.
Wat
Posted on 4/10/24 at 1:47 pm to CocomoLSU
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Had he taken the time to properly vet his bidders maybe he would’ve seen that there were more trustworthy people than Nedry.
You are assuming that there were bidders. Nedry worked for InGen meaning he was likely in house IT and not a contractor.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 1:49 pm to Dr RC
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Nedry WAS qualified. Problem was he was the ONLY person who was qualified to know what the hell needed to be done and to be able to do it.
This. The hiring of Nedry itself wasn't a problem just because he bid low. The work he did for the park was incredible.
Where Hammond cut corners was by not hiring more support staff to help Nedry manage the system.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 1:59 pm to nvasil1
Is Dr. Wu an absolute shithead in the original book? I had no idea he would go on to be such a huge thug pos in the later movies.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 1:59 pm to SG_Geaux
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IT is always an afterthought. The necessary evil
I’m in network cybersecurity. I’ve had a quote for email security sitting on a customers’s desk for 5 months.
Last week they had a phishing email go out to their entire company asking people to fill out personal information that a few thousand people answered in a Google doc sheet.
Guess who got a Purchase Order for email security this week?
This post was edited on 4/10/24 at 2:00 pm
Posted on 4/10/24 at 2:06 pm to dawgfan24348
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Also Lex is 5 years old which makes more sense rewatching the scene when Tim’s arse could have easily handed Ellie the shot gun instead of just watching Lex
Most frustrating scene in the movie for me.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 2:44 pm to CocomoLSU
quote:No, why would they move the raptors from one place to another to feed when every other dinosaur gets fed in its regular paddock? Set the food out for the raptors just like they did with the goat for T. Rex
That’s just how they feed them, no? They have their own paddock I’m pretty sure. At one point Muldoon asks if the raptor fences are still working and they check. He wouldn’t ask that for that tiny little enclosure where they feed.
In the opening scene of the movie where the worker gets killed by a raptor, they were trying to load the raptor into that same enclosure.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 2:53 pm to CocomoLSU
Even if Nedry doesn't shut off the power, its still just one fence in a jungle setting on an island in a region where tropical storms/hurricanes are a potential issue. Only a matter of time before the island takes a hit from a tropical system that packs enough punch to knock some big trees down on top of those fences.
They would have had to cut down a wide enough area on both sides of the fence to leave no trees close enough to potentially fall and land on the fences.
They would have had to cut down a wide enough area on both sides of the fence to leave no trees close enough to potentially fall and land on the fences.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 2:58 pm to Dr RC
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No. It never would have gone off w/o a hitch b/c at the end of the day Hammond is still the cheap fly by night huckster he was when he was running a flea circus.
Hammond's constant claims of spared no expense are really just him lying to everyone about what he has done while trying to wish his claims into existence. It's clear corners were cut all over the place.
Why do you think he bought an island in Costa Rica? It was to avoid any kinds of regulations he was obviously flouting. Why do you think he refused to listen to reason and kept the Raptors alive? He isn't willing to eat the financial loss. Why do you think he hired Nedry? He didn't want to pay for a proper IT team b/c his arrogant arse thought it was just some nerd shite and wasn't worth the coin.
Also, it's not really obvious in the movie but in the book it's heavily implied Igen also lied to Nedry about the scope of project. When he balked they blackmailed him into staying by ruining his rep w/his other clients which was the source of his money problems. You kind of sort of get that when they argue about money but it's left more open ended since Hammond refuses to talk about it.
Hammond might come off as a nice old man just trying to do something incredible but he's actually a massive a-hole and completely deluded himself into thinking he's some sort of mastermind when he's just a dude who bought a company and is forcing unrealistic goals on everyone.
This is good stuff
Posted on 4/10/24 at 3:11 pm to Dr RC
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Hammond might come off as a nice old man just trying to do something incredible but he's actually a massive a-hole and completely deluded himself into thinking he's some sort of mastermind when he's just a dude who bought a company and is forcing unrealistic goals on everyone.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 3:27 pm to UnluckyTiger
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Dr. Wu an absolute shithead in the original book? I had no idea he would go on to be such a huge thug pos in the later movies.
Yeah he dies in the book too same with Hammond
Posted on 4/10/24 at 3:45 pm to Fun Bunch
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Also, it's not really obvious in the movie but in the book it's heavily implied Igen also lied to Nedry about the scope of project. When he balked they blackmailed him into staying by ruining his rep w/his other clients which was the source of his money problems. You kind of sort of get that when they argue about money but it's left more open ended since Hammond refuses to talk about it.
Bingo. As someone who's in project management, a part of me empathized with Nedry's predicament.
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Hammond might come off as a nice old man just trying to do something incredible but he's actually a massive a-hole and completely deluded himself into thinking he's some sort of mastermind when he's just a dude who bought a company and is forcing unrealistic goals on everyone.
Book Hammond is a massive tPOS, and if Spielberg was trying to convey that for the movie, casting Richard Attenborough was not the best choice.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 3:46 pm to UnluckyTiger
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Is Dr. Wu an absolute shithead in the original book?
No, but he's more arrogant than in the original movie.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 3:47 pm to CocomoLSU
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Most frustrating scene in the movie for me.
Still pisses me off 30 years later.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 3:49 pm to BigBinBR
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You are assuming that there were bidders. Nedry worked for InGen meaning he was likely in house IT and not a contractor.
Nedry is a contractor in the book.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 4:49 pm to CocomoLSU
Hey, he did get Richard Kiley to narrate.
So there's that.
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