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Yuge case before SCOTUS that could rein in the EPA and other fed agencies
Posted on 3/30/24 at 8:53 am
Posted on 3/30/24 at 8:53 am
Yuge case was argued before the SCOTUS back in January of this year.
The so-called 'Chevron Doctrine' have been used for decades by unelected, unaccountable, useless bureaucrats to cripple our country.
If the SCOTUS overturns Chevron, it would be a tremendous boost to bringing in an over-bearing federal bureaucracy.
The so-called 'Chevron Doctrine' has been twisted by the left to give all these alphabet agencies tremendous power over the US and our economy.
Many of these clowns who are making tremendous decisions are unelected and unaccountable useless corrupt-crats.
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The SCOTUS will likely hand down it decision in July of this year.
It should be a 9-0 decision. But we know that the 3 of them are just token deep staters. Could be a 6-3 decision.
I just don't trust Roberts, Kav & Barret are too wishy-washy to be trusted.
The so-called 'Chevron Doctrine' have been used for decades by unelected, unaccountable, useless bureaucrats to cripple our country.
If the SCOTUS overturns Chevron, it would be a tremendous boost to bringing in an over-bearing federal bureaucracy.
The so-called 'Chevron Doctrine' has been twisted by the left to give all these alphabet agencies tremendous power over the US and our economy.
Many of these clowns who are making tremendous decisions are unelected and unaccountable useless corrupt-crats.
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It has been nearly 40 years since the Supreme Court indicated in Chevron v. Natural Resources Defense Council that courts should defer to an agency’s reasonable interpretation of an ambiguous statute. After more than three-and-a-half hours of oral argument on Wednesday, it seemed unlikely that the rule outlined in that case, known as the Chevron doctrine, will survive in its current form. A majority of the justices seemed ready to jettison the doctrine or at the very least significantly limit it.
The court’s ruling could have ripple effects across the federal government, where agencies frequently use highly trained experts to interpret and implement federal laws. Although the doctrine was relatively noncontroversial when it was first introduced in 1984, in recent years conservatives – including some members of the Supreme Court – have called for it to be overruled.
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The SCOTUS will likely hand down it decision in July of this year.
It should be a 9-0 decision. But we know that the 3 of them are just token deep staters. Could be a 6-3 decision.
I just don't trust Roberts, Kav & Barret are too wishy-washy to be trusted.
Posted on 3/30/24 at 8:57 am to Reubaltaich
This case is one of the single biggest opportunities to hobble the federal government that no one is talking about. The administrative state is what actually rules us, not congress or the president. This would be crippling and would allow states in the 5th circuit to depart widely from the goals of Washington.
Posted on 3/30/24 at 9:10 am to Tigerlaff
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single biggest opportunities to hobble the federal government
Then watch out for Cav, Amy and John...they are Washington elite.
Posted on 3/30/24 at 9:15 am to Reubaltaich
If this USSC can pull back on the Chevron Doctrine Mitch McConnell goes down as one of the GOAT American politicians.
Posted on 3/30/24 at 9:17 am to Tigerlaff
This case should be on the forefront in political discussions.
IF we can get DJT elected again and the SCOTUS strikes down the Chevron Doctrine, it would be lights out for a lot of these agencies like the EPA, Dept. of Interior, Dept of Energy, Dept of non-Education...
There are some other decisions that need to be revisted.
This is why we need DJT back in the WH again.
IF we can get DJT elected again and the SCOTUS strikes down the Chevron Doctrine, it would be lights out for a lot of these agencies like the EPA, Dept. of Interior, Dept of Energy, Dept of non-Education...
There are some other decisions that need to be revisted.
This is why we need DJT back in the WH again.
Posted on 3/30/24 at 9:18 am to Reubaltaich
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It should be a 9-0 decision.
Well the issue is precedent. With the Roe reversal and now Chevron possibly being reversed, the issue/worry is that precedent has no value anymore. But that raises the question of how to change bad USSC rulings.
Posted on 3/30/24 at 9:18 am to Reubaltaich
Chevron should go.
It was based on the concept that agencies would not be malevolent, power-grabbing shitheels
It was based on the concept that agencies would not be malevolent, power-grabbing shitheels
Posted on 3/30/24 at 9:22 am to Reubaltaich
What is sad is the USSC has to stop this nonsense, in a just govt the legislature would pass laws, not lobbyists, nor the agencies, nor the doj by using ngos as proxys to sue them for something they want passed that would never get through congress.
Posted on 3/30/24 at 9:24 am to SlowFlowPro
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It should be a 9-0 decision.
Well the issue is precedent. With the Roe reversal and now Chevron possibly being reversed, the issue/worry is that precedent has no value anymore. But that raises the question of how to change bad USSC rulings
Plessy much?
Bad decisions are bad. The recognition that they are bad and abrogating them is intellectually honest.
Posted on 3/30/24 at 9:25 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:and it shouldn't have value. precedent isn't law.
the issue/worry is that precedent has no value anymore.
The EPA will go on doing their evil either way and most companies will go along lock step. you're all evil and brainwashed and clueless about it.
Posted on 3/30/24 at 9:28 am to faraway
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and it shouldn't have value.
The entire system of common law our entire legal system and Constitution is based around is based on precedent having a lot of power
Posted on 3/30/24 at 9:29 am to udtiger
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Bad decisions are bad. The recognition that they are bad and abrogating them is intellectually honest.
Sure, but bad is very subjective.
The super majority of the US loves Roe and thinks Dobbs is bad
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Posted on 3/30/24 at 9:36 am to Reubaltaich
The Executive Branch has been wielding the EPA as a bludgeon to extort payments from corporations that aren’t in lockstep with their ideology ….. they’ve been doing it for decades and it’s the same for other agencies too.
Time to correct a mistake that was not adequately foreseen or understood with the original Chevron ruling.
Time to correct a mistake that was not adequately foreseen or understood with the original Chevron ruling.
Posted on 3/30/24 at 9:39 am to Reubaltaich
The CDC and FDA were also slapped by the courts for calling for ban of Ivermectin. Ruling was that it's a job for Congress, not an agency.
Posted on 3/30/24 at 9:40 am to SlowFlowPro
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The entire system of common law our entire legal system and Constitution is based around is based on precedent having a lot of power
Which is why the civil law system is superior.
Posted on 3/30/24 at 9:43 am to SlowFlowPro
Can you even imagine if POTUS Trump had not been elected? Very scary, Indeed!!
Posted on 3/30/24 at 9:44 am to Reubaltaich
It would be a huge help if this happened because Congress would have to do its job of passing controversial legislation instead of relying on unelected Fed Executive agencies to do things like implement Climate Change legal regimes.
Posted on 3/30/24 at 9:47 am to SlowFlowPro
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The super majority of the US loves Roe and thinks Dobbs is bad
Product of 60 years of public education and 40 years of media manipulation.
Thankfully, the Constitution is an "anti-democratic" document and doesn't give a shite about what the "supermajority" likes.
If they want to change the Constitution, there's a mechanism for doing so.
Posted on 3/30/24 at 10:00 am to Tigerlaff
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The administrative state is what actually rules us, not congress or the president.
It’s not the laws.
It’s the rules they put in to “implement” the laws where the state has massively overstepped.
Hopefully scotus fixes this.
Posted on 3/30/24 at 10:01 am to SlowFlowPro
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The super majority of the US loves Roe and thinks Dobbs is bad
No they don't, they love the dishonest version of roe our misinformation industries and trash institutions have installed in their stupid brains.
The super majority of people disagree with Roe.
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