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First time ever I owe taxes

Posted on 3/24/24 at 9:10 pm
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
29044 posts
Posted on 3/24/24 at 9:10 pm
43 and been married 17 years
We’ve always filed jointly and have gotten anywhere from 3 to $7000 back every year.

About two years ago that went down to $1800 and last year $500. I did my taxes this weekend and it says we owe $2800

We both have the exact same jobs and two kids that qualify for the child credit. I don’t get it

I’m dummy so the top of your head any reason why you think it would flip that much in a couple years?


When I did my deductions, things I always got credit for now never move the needle. We give a lot to our church and certain charities and that always made a dent, but this year not $1.

What am I missing?
Posted by horsesandbulls
Destin, FL
Member since Jun 2008
4895 posts
Posted on 3/24/24 at 9:20 pm to
It’s hard to give weigh in on this without knowing your agi over the last 4-5 years.

But sounds like you’ve gotten steady raises and never adjusted your withholding.

Church donations usually won’t have any effect unless you gave more than the standard deduction, which this year is 27,700 for married filing jointly.
Posted by CEB
Member since May 2023
56 posts
Posted on 3/24/24 at 9:26 pm to
2021 had some benefits due to pandemic stimulus that stopped in 2022. Other than that as your income inches up you will lose some child credit. There was little changes from 2022 to 2023.
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24478 posts
Posted on 3/24/24 at 9:57 pm to
Do you have a taxable brokerage or a bunch of cash in a High Yield Savings Account that is throwing off interest or dividends?

There isn’t any withholding in those and it can quickly throw things off.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37851 posts
Posted on 3/24/24 at 11:07 pm to
1) ate you withholding married or single?

2) does one of you make significantly more than the other?

3) does one of have a lot of variable values income such as bonuses or stock incentives?
Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
46953 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 12:11 am to
Compare your 1040s. It’s not that hard.

If you have a question about one of the lines then come back and ask about it.

The question is impossible to answer with what you’ve given us.
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
36737 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 7:26 am to
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What am I missing?
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technically, you want to owe/receive as little as possible during tax season.

those refunds you were used to getting wasn't a gift from the government. it was your own money. you gave too much of it to the gov't during that year and they were just giving it back. hence the term "refund".


if you owe a couple hundred bucks, that's fine. if you only get a couple of hundred back, that's fine as well. $2800 is a bit of a stretch. i'd go back through and make sure you didn't "fat-finger" any of the numbers with your income.


what system are you using to do your taxes? turbo tax usually let's you sign into your retirement accounts for that stuff. W2 should be a simple upload.
Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
13782 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 8:01 am to
quote:

When I did my deductions, things I always got credit for now never move the needle. We give a lot to our church and certain charities and that always made a dent, but this year not $1. What am I missing?


My guess is you take the standard deduction and have not realized until now that you cannot write off charitable donations, if you are looking for a reason your taxes are higher. When you are saying the charitable donations are not moving the needle a $1, that tells me you are taking the standard deduction. But if they benefited you last year then you had to itemize (after Trump tax cuts you can no long write off charitable donations if you take the standard deduction).

You must make a pretty decent amount of money if charitable donations helped you last year because you now have to itemize for that to benefit you. If you are itemizing, did you reach the AMT threshold this year? Also, given your presumed high income if you are itemizing, the child tax credit may be phased out for you. This would account for the $2800+ increase in taxes owed.

Generally speaking, taxes should not be higher this year than last year. The thresholds got a very large bump this year to adjust for inflation. All things being equal, you have to be making a decent amount more this year to owe more taxes.
Posted by SleepyJeaux
Member since Mar 2024
45 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 8:58 am to
Nursing Home Commander In Chief sent your refund to the illegals. You did a good deed my man. They will be popping up in your community soon.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
57370 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 12:18 pm to
quote:

I did my deductions, things I always got credit for now never move the needle. We give a lot to our church and certain charities and that always made a dent, but this year not $1.
it’s been a minute since you got credit for that type of giving unless you give a bunch
Posted by Rize
Spring Texas
Member since Sep 2011
16367 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 12:36 pm to
I’m getting back close to 5k and owe the state $500. First time getting a refund in a long time. Usually owe between 7500 to 14,000.

After about 10 years of owing I asked my wife what she was claiming for taxes on her paycheck and she said zero and 1. Changed it last year and owe a couple grand and this year get a refund.

No kids and standard deduction.


Fixed to say refund
This post was edited on 3/25/24 at 1:26 pm
Posted by bobdylan
Cankton
Member since Aug 2018
1539 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 7:46 pm to
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I just don’t know with the thousands of deductions we had it didn’t move the needle $1


What deductions? Are they more than $27,700?
Posted by BZ504
Texas
Member since Oct 2005
10209 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 10:53 pm to
I’m gonna say FJB, just because.
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
77568 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 11:21 am to
quote:

I’m dummy


trust me WE KNOW from your postings and predictions on the rant
Posted by Lutcher Lad
South of the Mason-Dixon Line
Member since Sep 2009
6084 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 8:21 am to
quote:

What am I missing?


It's the illegals, man! Do you realize how much taxpayer money is being spent on these illegals, who flow into our country with the arms of the Democrats stretched to greet them upon arrival?
Someone has to pay for it, right? While our citizens struggle in this piss poor economy that Joe Biden thinks is wonderful, the illegals are flourishing!
Posted by KWL85
Member since Mar 2023
1451 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 8:57 am to
I haven't had a refund in 20 years. Hard to relate.

You are working on the wrong problem. Put more energy into investing!
Posted by Smoke7024
Member since Jun 2010
22870 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 11:50 am to
People are getting hammered because W4s aren't being filled out correctly. It's a little more involved than it used to be.
Posted by mule74
Watersound Beach
Member since Nov 2004
11446 posts
Posted on 3/29/24 at 11:06 am to
My wife and I are both high W2 earners and we have paid for years. Doesn’t bother me to pay. I’d rather pay than let the govt hold my money.
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