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re: Huge Fight at Fred's...UPDATE: Arrest made

Posted on 3/25/24 at 12:52 pm to
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 3/25/24 at 12:52 pm to
I know someone who caught a murder charge after knocking someone out & killing them. Guy hit his head on a parking bumper
This post was edited on 3/25/24 at 12:54 pm
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 3/25/24 at 12:53 pm to
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You don’t need to be a lawyer to understand you aren’t automatically guilty for punching someone and they die
If it's true they waited outside for him which in turn led to the tragic events, I think the puncher will have a tough time defending himself completely.

Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
47813 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 12:53 pm to
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A lot on this website like to romanticize about fights and bar fights. After 12 years old, if you get in a fight you chose to 99.9% of the time. There is almost always an out. At some point you have to grow up and leave


You gotta remember, fights help make men MAGA
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95905 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 12:53 pm to
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I know someone who caught a murder charge after knocking someone out & killing them. Guy hit his head on a parking bumper


Absolutely you can. You better hope it’s clear the other person was the aggressor and you were in a defense situation
This post was edited on 3/25/24 at 12:56 pm
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 3/25/24 at 12:53 pm to
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And what are those counsel?



someone swings at you first, you swing back and knock them the frick out, and this shitty scenario happens where they die from the fall.
I mean that's an easy one judge. There's no intent to kill there.
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 3/25/24 at 12:54 pm to
Is this the Fred's on the river?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95905 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 12:54 pm to
If someone attacks you first you can put a bullet in their head and not be guilty of anything, much less just a punch

Intent to kill doesn’t even matter
This post was edited on 3/25/24 at 12:55 pm
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 3/25/24 at 12:55 pm to
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The espn production crew didn’t like coming to Baton Rouge because tigerland is trashy? ok
the LSU bar scene as a whole.
Posted by bdavids09
Member since Jun 2017
640 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 12:56 pm to
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A stomping on his head scenario? Toast

Yeah that’s what did Garrett ward in. Once there was a witness that said he kicked him when he was down it was over
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25806 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 12:56 pm to
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I know someone who caught a murder charge after knocking someone out & killing them. Guy hit his head on a parking bumper




seems like you are likely leaving out a ton of details that matter here.
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 3/25/24 at 1:05 pm to
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I know someone who caught a murder charge after knocking someone out & killing them. Guy hit his head on a parking bumper

He do time? How much?
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278674 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 1:07 pm to
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seems like you are likely leaving out a ton of details that matter here.


I wasn’t there; just read about it in the paper. Guy is out now so don’t know what stuck
Posted by LordSnow
Your Mom's House
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 3/25/24 at 1:07 pm to
Did someone say there was a video ?
Posted by sec13rowBBseat28
St George, LA
Member since Aug 2006
15394 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 1:08 pm to
Garrett Ward received a 30 year sentence.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
48762 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 1:12 pm to
Pretty sad that a guy lost his life over a stupid bar fight. Nothing good happens in Tigerland anymore.
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
20253 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 1:13 pm to
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Garrett Ward received a 30 year sentence.

Beating up an old frail man ain’t the same
This post was edited on 3/25/24 at 1:31 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95905 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 1:15 pm to
I mean it comes down to does he have a self defense or stand your ground claim

Someone dying from your actions doesn’t make you guilty of anything in and of itself

When we thought it was a head stomping situation that makes self defend or stand your ground basically impossible. Now that a one punch scenario is on the table those two defenses are absolutely possible
This post was edited on 3/25/24 at 1:17 pm
Posted by broadhead
Member since Oct 2014
2122 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 1:16 pm to
Waiting in the parking lot after being asked to leave will play a role into intent. But as usual, all the facts are not available for us armchair lawyers to know what happened.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95905 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 1:17 pm to
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Waiting in the parking lot after being asked to leave will play a role into intent.
Plays a role. But not sure how it would take self defense or stand your ground off the table just by the action of waiting

Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25806 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 1:18 pm to
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Garrett Ward received a 30 year sentence.



Getting in a fight and hitting someone once, who was supposedly the person starting the raucus in the first place, isn't the same as beating an old homeless guy to death with multiple blows who literally can't fight back b/c he's too old.

Now if we find out he sucker punched him from behind or something like that, that's a different scenario.
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