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re: Getting contacted by work during vacation
Posted on 3/20/24 at 11:51 am to AbitaFan08
Posted on 3/20/24 at 11:51 am to AbitaFan08
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Quoting the Bible in a discussion about whether or not someone should take work calls/messages on vacation.
Its generally common sense among even average humans that profiting your employer leads to better outcomes than not profiting your employer.
Was this news today for you too?
Posted on 3/20/24 at 11:51 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Absolutely not. My current job requires little work. They overpay me.
But I'll give you a little hint. If you make people money, they favor you over the other fella.
This is where competitive people win over people like you. The parable of the talents.
Now after a long time the master of those servants came and settled accounts with them. 20 And he who had received the five talents came forward, bringing five talents more, saying, ‘Master, you delivered to me five talents; here, I have made five talents more.’ 21 His master said to him, ‘Well done, good and faithful servant.[c] You have been faithful over a little; I will set you over much. Enter into the joy of your master.’ 22 And he also who had the two talents came forward, saying, ‘Master, you delivered to me two talents; here, I have made two talents more.’ 23 His master said to him, ‘Well done, good and faithful servant. You have been faithful over a little; I will set you over much. Enter into the joy of your master.’ 24 He also who had received the one talent came forward, saying, ‘Master, I knew you to be a hard man, reaping where you did not sow, and gathering where you scattered no seed, 25 so I was afraid, and I went and hid your talent in the ground. Here, you have what is yours.’ 26 But his master answered him, ‘You wicked and slothful servant! You knew that I reap where I have not sown and gather where I scattered no seed? 27 Then you ought to have invested my money with the bankers, and at my coming I should have received what was my own with interest. 28 So take the talent from him and give it to him who has the ten talents.
Roger quoting fricking Matthew to justify someone not having any work/life balance wasn't on my bingo card for today, but here we are.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 11:52 am to AbitaFan08
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Quoting the Bible in a discussion about whether or not someone should take work calls/messages on vacation
Yeah, idk about quoting the book where even the most important man in history took a full day off once a week
Posted on 3/20/24 at 11:53 am to Ingeniero
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Yeah, idk about quoting the book where even the most important man in history took a full day off once a week
Jesus can rest but you betta not, son.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 11:54 am to Displaced
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My vacation is my vacation.
Don't call or text. If you or someone else is completely unable to handle daily issues for a week while I'm away, I need to be paid significantly more.
This. Vacation and sick days are part of our company's benefit package.
My boss doesn't work while he's on vacation, so why the hell should I?
Posted on 3/20/24 at 11:57 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Its generally common sense among even average humans that profiting your employer leads to better outcomes than not profiting your employer. Was this news today for you too?
What does this have to do with taking PTO?
Since we’re quoting old things, you are the epitome of “Better to keep quiet and let people think you’re an idiot than speak up and confirm it.”
Every time you post you strengthen the confirmation.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 11:58 am to AbitaFan08
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What does this have to do with taking PTO?
If you had followed the thread instead of just jumping in when your heart rate increased, this wouldnt be a hangup for you
Posted on 3/20/24 at 12:00 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Sorry I wasn’t taking two months off and working the 12 steps. Some of us were going balls to the wall and couldn’t read the entire thread.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 12:00 pm to Jenious
I think, in general, employers should not be contacting their employees when they're off of work. It's usually inappropriate to do so.
With that said, my job is very seasonal in the sense that we're extremely busy during our busy seasons and very slow during our slow seasons.
I think it's often odd how people will take off work during those very busy times, when we've been sitting around the office doing nothing other times of the year, when there's plenty of time for vacation.
And so, what I'm trying to say is that if I chose to take off work at a very busy time in my office, where I was goofing off in the office during the other less-busy times, I wouldn't be offended if my employer reached out to me regarding some task.
I think context is important in a case like this. For instance, was your coworker being productive during his time before vacation? Or did he let work pile up that should have already been done?
With that said, my job is very seasonal in the sense that we're extremely busy during our busy seasons and very slow during our slow seasons.
I think it's often odd how people will take off work during those very busy times, when we've been sitting around the office doing nothing other times of the year, when there's plenty of time for vacation.
And so, what I'm trying to say is that if I chose to take off work at a very busy time in my office, where I was goofing off in the office during the other less-busy times, I wouldn't be offended if my employer reached out to me regarding some task.
I think context is important in a case like this. For instance, was your coworker being productive during his time before vacation? Or did he let work pile up that should have already been done?
Posted on 3/20/24 at 12:00 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Its generally common sense among even average humans that profiting your employer leads to better outcomes than not profiting your employer. Was this news today for you too?
What does being profitable to your employer have to do with working on vacation?
If you need to work 52 weeks a year to be green for your employer you suck.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 12:03 pm to Ingeniero
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quoting the book where even the most important man in history took a full day off once a week
Posted on 3/20/24 at 12:04 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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If you need to work 52 weeks a year to be green for your employer you suck.
And so do they
This post was edited on 3/20/24 at 12:04 pm
Posted on 3/20/24 at 12:05 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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What does being profitable to your employer have to do with working on vacation?
If you need to work 52 weeks a year to be green for your employer you suck.
Roger is min-maxing profitability bro. It's all about creating shareholder value. If you aren't training your body to get all its sleep in microbursts so you can work 23 hours a day you aren't creating maximum value bro. It's all about the #grindset
Posted on 3/20/24 at 12:05 pm to Bruco
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On active deals, yes. Other crap, no. Unfortunately it’s not realistic to have someone jump in on a deal I’ve been working on for a month.
Absolutely agree. Further to your point if there is something active going on I make it clear that I can be contacted about it to assist or answer questions.
If you are calling me to ask about some bullshite then we are going to have a major problem.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 12:06 pm to Jenious
Work didn’t give me a cell phone, not answering. I don’t answer my personal phone for work at all. Want to tell me something, text it. I’ll see it when I see it.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 12:17 pm to Jenious
Vacation time is vacation time.
If you are being contacted on it, it better mean that something catastrophic has happened and it is an “all hands” situation.
If it isn’t a catastrophic situation, the response should pretty much be “My vacation time is my own but you can contract me to do short term work at $200/hr.”
If you are being contacted on it, it better mean that something catastrophic has happened and it is an “all hands” situation.
If it isn’t a catastrophic situation, the response should pretty much be “My vacation time is my own but you can contract me to do short term work at $200/hr.”
Posted on 3/20/24 at 12:20 pm to Jenious
Nope and that’s a shite work environment that they would even contact him unless it’s a dire emergency
Posted on 3/20/24 at 12:26 pm to Jenious
Go on vacation outside of the country. Problem solved.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 12:37 pm to Jenious
I think this really depends on what your position is.
In my early career, I would not have expected to be bothered unless a real emergency required it.
But later, I had a position which frequently involved time sensitive items and I was management, so there was a higher expectation that I could be contacted when needed.
Still, I liked to travel to remote places so contact would be a problem. I also did not want to be bothered unless really necessary so I gave my most responsible boss and a trusted subordinate a number that would be most likely to work in a reasonable amount of time. I also checked in via email and/or phone a time or two per day.
But the default expectation should always be to respect a person's time off.
In my early career, I would not have expected to be bothered unless a real emergency required it.
But later, I had a position which frequently involved time sensitive items and I was management, so there was a higher expectation that I could be contacted when needed.
Still, I liked to travel to remote places so contact would be a problem. I also did not want to be bothered unless really necessary so I gave my most responsible boss and a trusted subordinate a number that would be most likely to work in a reasonable amount of time. I also checked in via email and/or phone a time or two per day.
But the default expectation should always be to respect a person's time off.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 12:39 pm to Jenious
These threads are always entertaining cause you get people who think they're Gordon Gecko vs people who think they're The Dude.
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