re: Getting contacted by work during vacation

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If you have an employee that you count on to handle stuff and they just up and take a vacation without handling or handing off their work, how can you trust them?

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Why did you the manager sign off on their vacation time then? Did you the manager not check in on the status of your employee's work prior to them leaving for vacation? Did you the manager not have a plan for your employee being on vacation? Why does the employee need to do the managing for you?

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Why? BECAUSE I GIVE A SHITE! And that's why myself (and other people like me) are paid well and advance.

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This is NOT the norm. Grinding and going above and beyond very seldom yields anything these days. It's why people are constantly leaving jobs to go elsewhere. It's the only way you can get that 20-30% raise.

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That the workers nowadays are becoming soft

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The workers these days are becoming smart.

Employers want to pay based solely off job description and not about what you do outside of the description? Then you're only going to get an 8-5 worker who does exactly that.

I used to be that guy that worked off hours constantly, took on more responsibility and worked longer hours to help my team and other groups. After 10 years across 2 employers, none of it was ever rewarded nor appreciated. But I'll tell you what, when I started working only within normal business hours and stopped answering calls emails outside of 8-5, all of a sudden there's a "problem" and I'm not pulling my weight.

frick all that. There's a balance to be struck and while I understand that there are some good employers out there who will reward legitimate hard work via pay, bonuses or promotions, most these days don't.

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The workers these days are becoming smart.

Employers want to pay based solely off job description and not about what you do outside of the description? Then you're only going to get an 8-5 worker who does exactly that.

I used to be that guy that worked off hours constantly, took on more responsibility and worked longer hours to help my team and other groups. After 10 years across 2 employers, none of it was ever rewarded nor appreciated. But I'll tell you what, when I started working only within normal business hours and stopped answering calls emails outside of 8-5, all of a sudden there's a "problem" and I'm not pulling my weight.

frick all that. There's a balance to be struck and while I understand that there are some good employers out there who will reward legitimate hard work via pay, bonuses or promotions, most these days don't.

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All that.

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Why did you the manager sign off on their vacation time then? Did you the manager not check in on the status of your employee's work prior to them leaving for vacation? Did you the manager not have a plan for your employee being on vacation? Why does the employee need to do the managing for you?

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"hey, you good? everything good for next week while you're out? everything covered? yes, ok, sounds good. have a good time"

monday comes, loose ends appear, he's getting lit up

He's the moron for responding to any of them.

It should be urgent. I’ve had to work on vacation to ensure everyone gets paid due to unexpected cash flow situation. If I’m the only one that can handle, I’m fine with it.

I’ve also been contacted for stuff that could wait. That’s one of the interrelated reasons I left a company about a year ago.

Agreed, if I’m leaving a project for vacation and my mentor or the VP call, then I’ll answer. They would not call if they didn’t have to as I already average 3400 hours a year. They give me the same treatment if the situation was flip flopped… anybody else that call: I didn’t have my phone on me during my vacation.

all i said was if he didn't take care of his business before he left he shouldn't be pissed they call him on vacation.

it's the boss's job to make sure there's someone there to handle what comes up, yes, like the boss him/herself or another worker. But it's on the one going on vacation to be sure whoever he's handing off to knows what's up.

eta: say the op has projects or tasks that will require attention while he's out. it's his responsibility to let the other person know these are coming, not the boss. the boss just needs to make sure there's another person. if not then the boss would be micromanaging and nobody wants that. it all boils down to communication. some people don't know how to communicate.

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sacrilegious to a lot of posters here and weirdly especially with those who post 60-100 times per day. Very odd

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people dont understand how different jobs/industries can be too

My first real job basically didn’t exist to me outside of 7-5 m-f, but I had to work (or pretend to work) all day in a cubicle

Now I can frick around a lot but I often have to take calls at all hours, send emails late or early, and occasionally work some very long hours and/or go in on the weekend. I genuinely prefer it this way.