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So protein has 4 calories per Gram...

Posted on 3/19/24 at 6:05 pm
Posted by TigerGman
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Posted on 3/19/24 at 6:05 pm
according to everything I read, so 250 grams of protein is only 1,000 calories,
My TDEE is around 2400 sedentary.

I'm lifting regularly now and putting on muscle, but how much more protein, if any, should I be taking in? I'm eating mostly protein and low carb and trying to lose my beer gut, but I don't want to take in too few calories. Based on posts I've been reading here, the numbers don't seem to be adding up, and I have a feeling I'm missing something.

Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 3/19/24 at 6:10 pm to
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so 250 grams of protein is only 1,000 calories,


Good luck hitting that.
Posted by hall59tiger
Member since Oct 2013
2533 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 6:33 pm to
.7-.8g per lb of body weight should work for pretty much everyone. 1g per lb would all but guarantee you are getting enough essential amino acids.
Anything more than that is unnecessary.

Split that total up over 4 meals with your first and last meal being the most important.

This is what my protein intake looks like at 185lbs:

6:30 45g

10:30 33 grams

2:30 35 grams

6:30 45g
Posted by BigPerm30
Member since Aug 2011
26230 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 7:34 pm to
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My TDEE is around 2400 sedentary.


What’s this based on? I highly doubt this unless youre 300lbs or have a shite metric ton of lean muscle.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/19/24 at 8:17 pm to
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My TDEE is around 2400 sedentary

Not likely
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
22798 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 8:47 pm to
If you want to lose weight, counting calories will work for some people. But counting calories is not the best way to try to lose weight. Basically if you eat healthy food only you will not be over weight.

My wife has never had a weight problem. She couldn't gain weight to save her life. Then one day her hormones changed and she had to starve herself to not gain weight. She had to stay under 1000 calories a day.

Eating healthy isn't easy. And 90% of the people will say they are when they are really not. For example at one point the highest calorie food you could order from walk on's was a SALAD. So someone eating that and probably drinking a diet coke with it would tell ya, they ate a healthy diet.

Most foods we eat today are highly processed crap. It take a major effort to eat healthy. Stop counting calories and start eating all the healthy.
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
35749 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 9:15 pm to
You’re eating 250g protein and not near 2400 calories? Are you eating food or just protein shakes? Get some fat in there.
Posted by PrezCock
Florida
Member since Sep 2019
607 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 10:05 pm to
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So protein has 4 calories per Gram


Yes. And it's the same as carbs. Fats are 9 calories per gram. But the one that most people do not know is that Alcohol is 7 calories per gram.

When you talk about your "beer gut", take a look at all the calories your alcohol intake is causing. Since Alcohol is a poison and not a "nutrient", for the most part it does not have to be accounted for on a nutrition label.
Posted by Fe_Mike
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 3/20/24 at 10:57 am to
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I'm lifting regularly now and putting on muscle, but how much more protein, if any, should I be taking in?


Sorry for grenading your thread.

Don't eat that much protein (250 g). It's wasted calories and chewing.

I'd cut your protein back to 180-200g.

Low carb may make you crash. In my opinion, support your workouts. 200g carbs is good. If you want to do low carb that's fine, but eat a lot more fat and if you find yourself sluggish or hating it, don't be afraid of carbs.

Fats you might want to aim around 60-100g depending on what you're doing with carbs. If you're low carb you'll prob want to be around 100g to not die. Again, in my opinion, this is the one to trim down if you aren't losing weight as fast as you'd like.



This post was edited on 3/20/24 at 10:59 am
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
2352 posts
Posted on 3/20/24 at 12:05 pm to
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according to everything I read, so 250 grams of protein is only 1,000 calories, My TDEE is around 2400 sedentary. I'm lifting regularly now and putting on muscle, but how much more protein, if any, should I be taking in? I'm eating mostly protein and low carb and trying to lose my beer gut, but I don't want to take in too few calories. Based on posts I've been reading here, the numbers don't seem to be adding up, and I have a feeling I'm missing something.


Well I disagree about 250 grams of protein(unless you are a giant and your ideal weight is like 250lbs). Id shoot for a gram of protein per lb of bodyweight at your ideal weight

What numbers arent adding up though, im confused?
Posted by caro81
Member since Jul 2017
5079 posts
Posted on 3/20/24 at 1:26 pm to
jesus christ i havent seen a thread go off the rails so fricking hard because of self important assholes in awhile. I was a simple question.

OP

Dont over think it. for most men 150-200 grams a protein will be more than enough.

Rethink your TDEE, that seems high for your size and age.

For your sanity have a balanced diet while hitting protein goals. dont make yourself miserable.
Posted by Hand of Justice
Member since Jun 2010
120 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 10:04 am to
Do not use any calculator to tell you your TDEE. Use it one time at the very beginning is about the most use you can get out of that sort of tool to just give you some number to start at that isn’t completely off base.

The scale and you tracking your calories over time will tell you your TDEE. It will change over time
This post was edited on 3/22/24 at 10:10 am
Posted by DoubleDown
New Orleans, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2008
12921 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 7:35 pm to
250g of protein EVERY day is kinda hard on the stomach. Dunno how much you currently weigh but usually 1g - 1.2g of protein per lb of current weight is enough to gradually bulk with muscle.

So let's say you currently weigh 200lbs, you probably don't need more than 200-220g of protein and that's a shite ton, daily.
Canned tuna is probably the easiest way, if you like tuna. Usually 2 of those is ~50g protein and not too heavy on the stomach. I find I get sick quickly of chicken but 3-4cans of tuna every day or 2 is doable + other meals.
Posted by Bigdawgb
Member since Oct 2023
1008 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 2:50 pm to
Average Joe spends so much time worried about technical details. If you're eating healthy and gaining weight, cut back on the fats. Butter, oil, pb etc.
Who is seriously claiming 2 jars of PB a week is "healthy"

Right now you guys are burning more calories quibbling over the margins. If you're seriously just eating veggies and still gaining weight consider switching to a doctor specializing in horses & cows.
This post was edited on 3/27/24 at 2:51 pm
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