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re: USAF plans to retire more A-10 Warthogs; “crippling” close air support capabilities

Posted on 3/19/24 at 1:05 pm to
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
29953 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 1:05 pm to
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Shame to see a legend moving into retirement.

It’s getting close to time on the airframes.

What’s a bigger shame is that we didn’t continue to update the design and produce more or them via new variants, or develop a true fixed-wing replacement.

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A portion of these should be reallocated to the Coast Guard for counter-trafficking operations.

Hell, sell them to Mexico and Colombia.
This post was edited on 3/19/24 at 1:09 pm
Posted by tigerfan in bamaland
Back Home now
Member since Sep 2006
61212 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 1:27 pm to
Sad, no better friend to ground troops.
Posted by Locoguan0
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2017
5009 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 1:30 pm to
Their role is being replaced by drones.
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
15389 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 1:34 pm to
I think this is representative of our national shift away from ground conflicts as we become more militarily isolationist. The United States is, first and foremost, a maritime military power. We're a Navy that also has an Army, not the other way around. In fact, I could see the Army shrinking. Most of our future conflicts are going to be done with air and naval power with Marines being used in instances where boots are absolutely needed.
Posted by bountyhunter
North of Houston a bit
Member since Mar 2012
6507 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 5:04 pm to
As much as I love this platform, I really would hate to fly it given how effective portable SAM equipment is becoming.
Posted by Reservoir dawg
Member since Oct 2013
14477 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 5:24 pm to
The A-10 is being replaced by search teams and DNA testing.
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
46605 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 5:27 pm to
Give them ALL to Texas.
Posted by uncommon sense
Member since Feb 2024
118 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 6:51 pm to
I completely disagree with retiring these planes. bullshite they're too expensive to maintain.

Ukraine ought to be too expensive to maintain, same with every other shithole country we've given billions of dollars to.
Posted by chinese58
NELA. after 30 years in Dallas.
Member since Jun 2004
31024 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 7:31 pm to
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A portion of these should be reallocated to the Coast Guard for counter-trafficking operations.
Sell them to Texas.
Posted by HerkFlyer
Auburn, AL
Member since Jan 2018
3047 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 8:06 pm to
The DoD is always preparing for the next war(for better or for worse, different discussion.). The A-10 has been very relevant in the GWOT environment.

Regardless of its relevance in previous fights the pentagon recognizes its deficiencies on a modern battlefield. The A-10 is incredibly vulnerable to more modern manpads that our previous adversaries didn’t possess. Not to mention air to air threats, threats it didn’t face in Afghanistan and Iraq. All that said, the DoD thinks the warthog has a low survivability rate on the modern battlefield.

FWIW, I disagree and think it’s a valuable platform and retiring them is short sighted. They’ll need top cover to effectively do their job against near peer threats, but I don’t think we have anything that can do their job as effectively.
Posted by cadillacattack
the ATL
Member since May 2020
5338 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 8:12 pm to
Big mistake ….

Posted by slappy dappy doo
Member since May 2021
395 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 9:09 pm to
When I was a young warthog...
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
17846 posts
Posted on 3/20/24 at 8:12 am to
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Rose Riley, a Department of the Air Force spokeswoman, told Military.com last year that the service plans to shrink the Tactical Air Control Party, or TACP, job field to about 2,130 positions -- a decrease of 44%, according to the service. The Air Force said the manning is now "roughly" 3,700 airmen.


Other than the Warthogs, the AF sucks at CAS. Navy or Marine fixed wing is the way to go if calling in fast movers. In reality this won’t impact force posture except for the Army who relies on AF TACP.
Posted by FearTheFish
Member since Dec 2007
3877 posts
Posted on 3/20/24 at 3:53 pm to
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A portion of these should be reallocated to the Coast Guard for counter-trafficking operations.
This is actually a fantastic idea
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