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Judge: Jury Sees Secret Files or Trump Wins
Posted on 3/19/24 at 7:10 am
Posted on 3/19/24 at 7:10 am
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But as she has done repeatedly, Cannon used this otherwise innocuous legal step as yet another way to swing the case wildly in favor of the man who appointed her while he was president.
Department of Justice Special Counsel Jack Smith must now choose whether to allow jurors at the upcoming criminal trial to peruse the many classified records found at the former president’s South Florida mansion or give jurors instructions that would effectively order them to acquit him.
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Cannon’s evening order alerted federal prosecutors and Trump’s legal team that they “must engage with the following competing scenarios” when considering whether Trump can be charged with “unauthorized possession”: Either “a jury is permitted to examine” every record a former president swipes and claims as “personal” to determine whether it is, or jurors must be told that “a president has sole authority… to categorize records as personal or presidential during his/her presidency.”
The first option would require Smith to allow any of the randomly called potential jurors in this rural stretch of South Florida to suddenly have access to what prosecutors have described as extremely alarming national secrets. The second option would essentially force jurors to acquit the former president of wrongdoing, given that they’d be told he had unquestionable authority to assert personal ownership over any government document within his reach—a self-justifying rule outside of anyone’s review.
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Posted on 3/19/24 at 7:14 am to WPBTiger
Show them to the jurors under controlled circumstances. That isn’t terribly difficult. But they should also monitor the jurors to see if they have any improper contacts with outside agents. Advise the jurors that all of this is going on, and get on with it.
Posted on 3/19/24 at 7:14 am to WPBTiger
Good Cannon.
Posted on 3/19/24 at 7:15 am to WPBTiger
That is one hell of a box Jackie finds himself in.
Posted on 3/19/24 at 7:18 am to WPBTiger
It's refreshing to see the Daily Beast writes almost on the level of the Gateway Pundit, these days. 
Posted on 3/19/24 at 7:20 am to WPBTiger
This just makes sense. We know the intel community is heavy-handed with marking materials with security clearance levels. A jury can't possibly be expected to make an informed decision if part of the "evidence" is locked away with only "trust us, it's there and it's bad" as the only thing for them to go on.
Posted on 3/19/24 at 7:28 am to WPBTiger
The journalistic bias in those paragraphs is astounding.
That said, I love the story lol
That said, I love the story lol
Posted on 3/19/24 at 7:29 am to WPBTiger
Haha, What's Obama and Biden going to do now? Would love to see the White House visitor logs for the next sat 2-3 weeks.
Jack Smith probably has 6 visits scheduled.
Jack Smith probably has 6 visits scheduled.
Posted on 3/19/24 at 7:47 am to WPBTiger
So the only way to convict him for having documents so secret that nobody should see, is to show people those documents.
Posted on 3/19/24 at 7:49 am to WPBTiger
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another way to swing the case wildly in favor of the man who appointed her while he was president.
Imagine this being your take in an article about the jury needing to see evidence in a case they will decide on.
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Either “a jury is permitted to examine” every record a former president swipes and claims as “personal” to determine whether it is, or jurors must be told that “a president has sole authority… to categorize records as personal or presidential during his/her presidency.”
Honestly, both of these things should be done anyway.
This post was edited on 3/19/24 at 7:53 am
Posted on 3/19/24 at 7:50 am to WPBTiger
Guess we're about to see JUST how important national security is to Smith.
Posted on 3/19/24 at 8:01 am to WPBTiger
I mean, this is common sense. If part of the test is whether the records are confidential, the records themselves must be examined to make a determination that they are, in fact, confidential. Prosecution is basically trying to bring a breach of contract case without introducing a copy of the contract into evidence.
Posted on 3/19/24 at 8:07 am to WPBTiger
I haven’t been following this like I should but I read last night that they refused to allow like 1,000 documents into the case that would have benefited greatly for Trump. That’s crazy!
Posted on 3/19/24 at 8:08 am to WPBTiger
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Posted on 3/19/24 at 8:14 am to WPBTiger
If I’m reading the tenor of the article correctly, then the author thinks that the jury should be told by the folks who are prosecuting, “We can’t show you the evidence, but just trust us: Orange Man Bad.”
Good for the judge.
Good for the judge.
Posted on 3/19/24 at 8:49 am to WPBTiger
The group of power monger crooks in lawfare behind this ....PAID a KGB agent to be an FBI informant to cocoon them from anyone knowing they set- up Trump like they set up the MI governor getting kidnapped.
And now we are all suppose to forget all of their grand jury leaks to assets in the media , AKA reporters?
We are to forget they tried Trump in the media by saying Trump had THE NUCLEAR CODES.
They don't want it known that every President did what Trump did and WJC fought the snooty archives people AND WON! Biden OTOH: had no declassification authority or immunity, and sold us out to several countries and aided Iran.
And now we are all suppose to forget all of their grand jury leaks to assets in the media , AKA reporters?
We are to forget they tried Trump in the media by saying Trump had THE NUCLEAR CODES.
They don't want it known that every President did what Trump did and WJC fought the snooty archives people AND WON! Biden OTOH: had no declassification authority or immunity, and sold us out to several countries and aided Iran.
Posted on 3/19/24 at 8:59 am to WPBTiger
When the federal government want's to get around laws that protect American citizens from their overreach they claim "national security".
And there it is.
Claiming national security is a lawfare game this DOJ plays.
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The first option would require Smith to allow any of the randomly called potential jurors in this rural stretch of South Florida to suddenly have access to what prosecutors have described as extremely alarming national secrets.
And there it is.
Claiming national security is a lawfare game this DOJ plays.
Posted on 3/19/24 at 9:03 am to WPBTiger
Meanwhile, all past presidents have warehouses full of presidential records.
Posted on 3/19/24 at 9:03 am to WPBTiger
Meanwhile, all past presidents have warehouses full of presidential records.
Posted on 3/19/24 at 9:05 am to WPBTiger
....we all know what's going on here with this absurd lawfare witchhunt.
Trump 2024 - They get past him - They're coming after us
Trump 2024 - They get past him - They're coming after us
This post was edited on 3/19/24 at 9:31 am
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