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re: The Fallen of World War II
Posted on 3/18/24 at 5:00 pm to DakIsNoLB
Posted on 3/18/24 at 5:00 pm to DakIsNoLB
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Amateurs talk about tactics; professionals talk about logistics. No one, even amongst the Allies, did it better than the U.S.
What the US was able to accomplish logistically in WW2 shocked the other global powers. They all knew at that point there was only one true global superpower. When our country is all pulling in the same direction against a common enemy we are unstoppable.
The Germans were an absolute disaster logistically and that might be an even greater reason for their loss than lend lease.
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Posted on 3/18/24 at 5:01 pm to shellbeachspeckzzz
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32% of males born in 1923 soviet union survived ww2
A good many of them died in the gulags.
Posted on 3/18/24 at 5:21 pm to Mstate
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What the US was able to accomplish logistically in WW2 shocked the other global powers. They all knew at that point there was only one true global superpower. When our country is all pulling in the same direction against a common enemy we are unstoppable.
This a hundred times over. Not enough room to get into all the details, but supporting a two-front war (which included sustained naval and aerial bombing operations) while also supplying our allies and while maintaining a high tempo of action was unbelievable.
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The Germans were an absolute disaster logistically and that might be an even greater reason for their loss than lend lease.
Add the Japanese, too.
This post was edited on 3/18/24 at 5:23 pm
Posted on 3/18/24 at 5:24 pm to DakIsNoLB
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Can't recall whether it was Ike, Patton or Marshall who said it, but one of them said the three most critical weapons that won WWII were the Jeep, the M1 Garand, and the DC-3.
Patton said the M1 was the best battle implement ever devised.
Eisenhower said the 4 most important pieces of equipment were the bulldozer, jeep, 2.5 ton truck and c47. all logistics related.
That's what I get from going by memory! At least the C47=DC-3. I should get partial credit on the test.
Posted on 3/18/24 at 5:27 pm to DakIsNoLB
The Panama Canal was the most heavily defended place on earth during WWII for good reason.
Posted on 3/18/24 at 6:36 pm to Locoguan0
If Hitler and Stalin couldn’t resist screwing each other over for it would be a drastically different world today.
Posted on 3/18/24 at 6:42 pm to SoDakHawk
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Imagine what the global population would be today if not for the massive death tolls of WW1, WW2, Chinese famine, Russian purges, African famine, etc.
Don’t forget the 50M people that died from Spanish Flu.
Posted on 3/18/24 at 6:44 pm to shellbeachspeckzzz
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32% of males born in 1923 soviet union survived ww2
A close family member of mine served in Vietnam after being drafted at 18. No college deferment or draft dodging for him. That war would have lasted a few months without these deferments, which were for upper middle class and wealthier young men. Maybe some of that happened in WW2, but probably not on the same scale.
Posted on 3/18/24 at 6:46 pm to kciDAtaE
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Don’t forget the 50M people that died from Spanish Flu.
Fake
Posted on 3/18/24 at 6:46 pm to Mstate
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What the US was able to accomplish logistically in WW2 shocked the other global powers. They all knew at that point there was only one true global superpower.
I would say everyone considered Russia as a superpower. It wasn’t just the US.
Quantity has a quality of its own.
Posted on 3/18/24 at 6:49 pm to IAmNERD
I didn’t know that ...japs where fcukin ruthless
Posted on 3/18/24 at 6:51 pm to shellbeachspeckzzz
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32% of males born in 1923 soviet union survived ww2
Wild. And it explains so much about Russia’s perspective on the world.
Same can be said for what happened to France in World War 1. They still haven’t recovered.
Posted on 3/18/24 at 6:53 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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from 1914-1945 we killed off a hell of a lot of smart, capable people across this world, which may explain the utter stupidity of modern feminist culture.
Two generations of Europeans were gutted. Germany, France, and Russia basically lost all of their capable young men—twice— in a span of thirty years.
Posted on 3/18/24 at 7:05 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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from 1914-1945 we killed off a hell of a lot of smart, capable people across this world
The lost generation.
Posted on 3/18/24 at 7:23 pm to kciDAtaE
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I would say everyone considered Russia as a superpower. It wasn’t just the US. Quantity has a quality of its own.
Sure they were a regional superpower and #2 in the world but the soviets could never project power conventionally on a global scale.
Now, nukes I guess is a whole other power on its own and they could compete there.
But I’m talking about what the US was able to accomplish in WW2 had never been seen before. Even at the pinnacle of the Soviet Union they couldn’t dream about doing that
Posted on 3/18/24 at 7:27 pm to Mstate
If we had to rank counties, USA would clearly be #1 coming out of WWII. Not disputing that. But Russia would be in the same tier.
Think about how many wars were fought to stop Russian communism. They were absolutely considered a super power.
If the world didn’t consider them a super power, the threat of communism would have never spread.
Think about how many wars were fought to stop Russian communism. They were absolutely considered a super power.
If the world didn’t consider them a super power, the threat of communism would have never spread.
Posted on 3/18/24 at 7:49 pm to Locoguan0
Thanks for sharing. Interesting video
Posted on 3/18/24 at 8:54 pm to shellbeachspeckzzz
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32% of males born in 1923 soviet union survived ww2
This was the male Tinder era.
Posted on 3/18/24 at 9:02 pm to kciDAtaE
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But Russia would be in the same tier.
*Soviet Union
Posted on 3/18/24 at 9:16 pm to TigerHornII
Equipping the P-51 Mustang with under wing drop tanks was the turning point in the air war in Europe
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