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re: Dumbasses in House pass Trojan Horse TikTok ban

Posted on 3/13/24 at 10:14 am to
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116328 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 10:14 am to
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Yeah, the US federal government definitely has our best interest at heart. And passing this bill will most definitely not result in a ridiculous overreach and abuse of power.


They certainly have a better interesting than the Chinese Communist Party. The Federal government should not have any involvement or ownership of Social Media platforms

Nor should the CCP, and they do. Simply force them to divest their ownership.

Reading some of the language of this bill, I agree that THIS one has issues.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
99229 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 10:16 am to
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Reading some of the language of this bill, I agree that THIS one has issues


Hence, my post
Posted by Hmerly
Member since May 2008
1341 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 10:25 am to
It's just propaganda to take down a successful platform the US government has limited control over. Our alphabet agencies know they can strongarm any US-based social media company to provide anything they request. We've seen the likes of Facebook and Twitter bow at their feet. However, with Tiktok's explosive growth, the alphabet agencies realized they had very little to no control over a foreign entity so they created the whole Tiktok = CCP narrative to justify taking it over. Yes, Tiktok is technically most likely controlled by the CCP, but why does that automatically mean it shouldn't be allowed? Our social media platforms are all controlled by the federal government, yet it's okay?
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
27246 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 10:26 am to
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When it passes by a 300 vote margin,


What did the Patriot Act pass by?

I could never see where the government would overstep their bounds...
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
60715 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 10:26 am to
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considering its from conservative treehouse who lie and take things out of context 99.99999% of the time, I'll have to read the rest in context.


If you're this upset over CTH, wait till you find out about legacy media, Operation Mockingbird and the Smith-Mundt Modernization Act of 2012...

At least DJT's pending Executive Order that Biden's string-pullers were quick to rescind was targeted specifically at TikTok and ByteDance.

All CTH did was draw attention to the deliberately vague language of the bill and how quickly it could be "repurposed" to target any outlet that Congress or the WH doesn't view as friendly.

Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
60715 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 10:28 am to
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The Federal government should not have any involvement or ownership of Social Media platforms


Who wants to tell him?

frick it, I'll do it....

Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
30223 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 10:29 am to
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The Federal government should not have any involvement or ownership of Social Media platforms


But they 100% will have involvement, and while they aren't listed as the actual "owners", let's be honest and know they are in bed with the major platforms to do their bidding.

The US govt cannot control or make money off TikTok as it stands, so they want it gone or under "American" ownership so they can get into bed with whomever takes it over.

The irony of all the "it pushes communism/marxism/socialist ideals!" screamers is that 1) It actually allows the opinion/speech of all ideals and 2) The US federal government has already shown it has interest in and will push whatever narrative it wants, while silencing the opposition under the guise of "hate speech" or "misinformation".

Looking at TikTok as it is now, it allows more free speech than it would under US government control, in my opinion.

That's not to say I trust the CCP, but it's more of a comment on how much distrust I have for the US federal government when it comes to censorship and shady behind the scenes actions basically circumventing 1A.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116328 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 10:30 am to
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If you're this upset over CTH, wait till you find out about legacy media, Operation Mockingbird and the Smith-Mundt Modernization Act of 2012...



CTH is just as bad as them.

This bill does have some concerning language reading through it though.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116328 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 10:31 am to
Do you understand the words "should not"
Posted by CU_Tigers4life
Georgia
Member since Aug 2013
7540 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 10:32 am to
TikTok is a modern day Tokyo Rose
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
60715 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 10:33 am to
As usual, Rand Paul is demonstrating why he is head and shoulders above anyone else on Capitol Hill. Dude is the definition of BASED.


Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119042 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 10:33 am to
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That looks extremely bad, but considering its from conservative treehouse who lie and take things out of context 99.99999% of the time, I'll have to read the rest in context


You don't realize it but you agree with tCTH probably 90% of the time. They just hit a strong nerve on the 10% y'all are not aligned. But in the general sense of the direction of the country your post history is aligned with the direction the CTH wants to go. Y'all just disagree on a couple of key leaders to help take us there.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116328 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 10:34 am to
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You don't realize it but you agree with tCTH


They are complete pieces of shite, so I am just not going to believe a word they say moving forward and look for literally any other source. I probably trust them less these days than the MSM and I never thought that possible.
Posted by LuckyTiger
Someone's Alter
Member since Dec 2008
45402 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 10:38 am to
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What exactly is wrong with the bill?

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TikTok is a hotbed of cultural Marxism, socialist propaganda, and anti-western sentiment, all being pushed by the CCP

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It is a national security threat and must be divested


You really don’t see the problem do you?
Posted by lake chuck fan
westlake
Member since Aug 2011
9266 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 10:39 am to
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What exactly is wrong with the bill?

When it passes by a 300 vote margin, maybe the problem is you?

TikTok is a hotbed of cultural Marxism, socialist propaganda, and anti-western sentiment, all being pushed by the CCP

It is a national security threat and must be divested from China


Have you read it or understand anything about it? It has little to do with Tiktok and everything to do with allowing the federal government to choose what internet platforms we will be allowed to use. Link below explains well. Also, provides link to the bill.
Horrible bill.

LINK
Posted by lake chuck fan
westlake
Member since Aug 2011
9266 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 10:41 am to
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quote:
That looks extremely bad, but considering its from conservative treehouse who lie and take things out of context 99.99999% of the time, I'll have to read the rest in context


You don't realize it but you agree with tCTH probably 90% of the time. They just hit a strong nerve on the 10% y'all are not aligned. But in the general sense of the direction of the country your post history is aligned with the direction the CTH wants to go. Y'all just disagree on a couple of key leaders to help take us there.


Yes. Read the actual bill!!! Good idea. The icing on the cake of this communist bill is any appeal can only be heard in the DC court of appeals!!!!! We already know what that outcome would be...
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
60715 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 10:42 am to
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What did the Patriot Act pass by?


Fiat
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57407 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 10:45 am to
This bill may be worse than the 1996 telecom bill. Dammit.
Posted by lake chuck fan
westlake
Member since Aug 2011
9266 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 10:46 am to
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It's just propaganda to take down a successful platform the US government has limited control over


No, it's not!!!! Read the bill!
Some people mistakenly think the bill is only about Titok. You couldn't be more wrong.
Regardless what you think of The Conservative Treehouse, read the article in the link.
Well explained with link to the bill itself.

LINK
This post was edited on 3/13/24 at 10:55 am
Posted by wareagle7298
Birmingham
Member since Dec 2013
1488 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 10:51 am to
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