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re: Non-revenue producing sports gets its warning

Posted on 3/12/24 at 7:34 pm to
Posted by pioneerbasketball
Team Bunchie
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 3/12/24 at 7:34 pm to
Does non producing players get fired?

Meaning someone has a bad 2 or 3 games in a row?
Posted by UnitedFruitCompany
Bay Area
Member since Nov 2018
3437 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 7:35 pm to
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and then, to satisfy Title IX, would pay an “equivalent # of female athletes.”


lol. the lawsuit would come so fast. And a million feminists would cry out in anguish when they realize they are the ones getting screwed by this.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85489 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 7:37 pm to
quote:

Saban made a good point today on this subject. If athletes are deemed employees every state they play they will be required to pay income tax in that state just like NFL,NBA and MLB players


I think this would depend. Saban does t pay taxes in every state they play. It depends how the contract is set up. If you’re paid per game, like NFL/NBA/MLB, it would be different.
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
18389 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 9:46 pm to
Football can go straight from high school to an NFL G League.
Reality right up front. And when 95% are busted after 3 years with no education, they can be minimum wage workers to start their new careers.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
21628 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 9:56 pm to
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The problem is that the majority of the student athletes that will be hurt by this aren’t the same people who were screaming for compensation. Those folks will be fine. The ones who simply wanted to go to school and play a sport will not.


I agree, and I was absolutely in the class where we were just simply wanting to be be D1 athletes while getting an education.

However, with the direction this is all going, I want those who are causing this shite circus to be hit with reality. If they want to be compensated like the “real world” for their talents, then they can also face everything else the “real world” brings.

Personally, though I know the big dog schools in the NCAA would never team together to take the stance, I believe if those “student” athletes just want to be paid athletes and not play school, then they should find a minor league that will pay them and not bother wearing a university’s name on their jersey.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
21628 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 9:59 pm to
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Does non producing players get fired?

Meaning someone has a bad 2 or 3 games in a row?


It should. If you can enter the portal before the season even ends because you’re not starting, I don’t see why your NIL, or better yet scholarship, can’t be yanked for not performing to what was expected.
Posted by BilbeauTBaggins
probably stuck in traffic
Member since May 2021
4905 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 10:31 pm to
Company expenses. You’ve never had a company write off a lunch or dinner? A hotel? They’ll find a way. The issue isn’t the players paying taxes. It’s schools affording to pay players equally and justifying that they’re taking university funds to support programs that don’t bring in money.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96699 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 10:40 pm to
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Good. Let them learn the hard way that the worth of a college scholarship Is more than "zero", and that they should appreciate having the chance to get a free education.
Except that’s not what’s happening. The tennis players, track athletes, etc that will be cut have never been the ones that pissed and moaned about being “poor little athletes”

They have and still do appreciate the free education. I would have given my left nut to be a full scholarship athlete like those poor pitiful football players
This post was edited on 3/12/24 at 10:44 pm
Posted by pioneerbasketball
Team Bunchie
Member since Oct 2005
132823 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 10:43 pm to
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It should. If you can enter the portal before the season even ends because you’re not starting, I don’t see why your NIL, or better yet scholarship, can’t be yanked for not performing to what was expected.

Exactly. My point.

What about a season ending injury....ect ect...
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98711 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 10:58 pm to
quote:

Good. Let them learn the hard way that the worth of a college scholarship Is more than "zero", and that they should appreciate having the chance to get a free education.





Yeah frick all those golf team and swim team prima donnas
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98711 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 10:58 pm to
quote:

Good. Let them learn the hard way that the worth of a college scholarship Is more than "zero", and that they should appreciate having the chance to get a free education.





Yeah frick all those golf team and swim team prima donnas
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98711 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 10:58 pm to
quote:

Good. Let them learn the hard way that the worth of a college scholarship Is more than "zero", and that they should appreciate having the chance to get a free education.





Yeah frick all those golf team and swim team prima donnas
Posted by timbo
Red Stick, La.
Member since Dec 2011
7400 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 11:46 pm to
My prediction: Big time college football breaks off from the NCAA. We’re talking maybe 40-50 schools. They collectively bargain, work out a deal with the networks, players get paid from that. Everything else stays in the NCAA. (Basketball is too dependent on the tournaments to break off, and you need the Cinderellas along with Duke, Kentucky, Kansas, etc.). The old conferences for non-football sports come back - it makes zero financial sense for Oregon women’s volleyball to be in the Big 10.
I mean a golfer at LSU has a lot more in common than a football player at McNeese than a football player at LSU. And that McNeese football player isn’t playing the same sport as an LSU player.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37733 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 5:25 am to
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What about their meal plan, dorms, "free" gear, etc?


If I’m a labor lawyer I’m claiming the gear and meal plans as requirements for the job safely and as such should be provided by the employer. The dorms on the other hand…
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37733 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 5:28 am to
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Saban made a good point today on this subject. If athletes are deemed employees every state they play they will be required to pay income tax in that state just like NFL,NBA and MLB players.


Florida, Tennessee, and Texas are about to get a lot more popular
Posted by Rendevoustavern
Member since May 2018
1583 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 5:35 am to
Fringe benefits
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
28151 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 6:17 am to
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If you’re paid per game, like NFL/NBA/MLB, it would be different.


those pro teams, the players are taxed based on where they are per pay period.

when pirates were in town, some one got a hold of one of pittsburgh players stub,later, and found that he paid Missouri taxes, as well as the 1% St.Louis city tax during the 4 game stand.

But, with states that have no taxable income, they would flourish
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
14698 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 6:19 am to
Wouldn't happen under any scenario, but I had to chuckle at the thought of LSU Baseball becoming a club sport under the UREC.

"Hey, Coach Johnson, it's supposed to drizzle around 4 today so the field is closed and all events are cancelled."
Posted by Hoops
LA
Member since Jan 2013
6605 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 7:46 am to
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And a million feminists would cry out in anguish when they realize they are the ones getting screwed by this.


While somehow not acknowledging their own role in creating the issue itself
Posted by GoGators1995
Member since Jan 2023
2136 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 7:47 am to
FB and BB should be exempt from T9 since women are allowed to play.
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