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Non-revenue producing sports gets its warning

Posted on 3/12/24 at 5:07 pm
Posted by The Egg
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Posted on 3/12/24 at 5:07 pm
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If athletes are deemed employees, Jim Phillips believes universities can pay athletes in sports that make revenue (FB/BSK) and then, to satisfy Title IX, would pay an “equivalent # of female athletes.”

The rest could be cut. “You can go from 28 to 6 sports in one fiscal year.”
Posted by OhioLSUfan
Columbus, OH
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 3/12/24 at 5:49 pm to
As employees, they would also have to start paying taxes on their scholarship.
Posted by Domeskeller
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 3/12/24 at 6:00 pm to
Good. Let them learn the hard way that the worth of a college scholarship Is more than "zero", and that they should appreciate having the chance to get a free education.
Posted by MikeD
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/12/24 at 6:05 pm to
They would go back to being club teams
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
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34685 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 6:18 pm to
What about their meal plan, dorms, "free" gear, etc?
Posted by Dadren
Jawja
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Posted on 3/12/24 at 6:21 pm to
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Good. Let them learn the hard way that the worth of a college scholarship Is more than "zero", and that they should appreciate having the chance to get a free education.


The problem is that the majority of the student athletes that will be hurt by this aren’t the same people who were screaming for compensation. Those folks will be fine. The ones who simply wanted to go to school and play a sport will not.
Posted by UltimaParadox
Huntsville
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Posted on 3/12/24 at 6:21 pm to
So basically we would be down to football and men's basketball. Then pay around 100 scholarships for female athletes. Softball, basketball.. gymnastics??
Posted by Ghost of Colby
Alberta, overlooking B.C.
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 3/12/24 at 6:26 pm to
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The problem is that the majority of the student athletes that will be hurt by this aren’t the same people who were screaming for compensation.

I don’t know. A lot of the time the people screaming the loudest, trying to unionize, and filing lawsuits aren’t the ones in line to eventually get paid once they are professionals.

They are the non-revenue sports and women.
Posted by geauxtigs99
NY
Member since Dec 2005
1120 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 6:27 pm to
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So basically we would be down to football and men's basketball. Then pay around 100 scholarships for female athletes. Softball, basketball.. gymnastics??


Pretty much, this was always going to be the case when the Jay Bilas’s of the world started pushing for this. A lot has to be decided full time / seasonal - what kind of employee is the athlete. The poster that said club sports is pretty much spot on I think.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
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Posted on 3/12/24 at 6:28 pm to
Basketball, softball, gymnastics, swimming. And whatever sports require the skimpiest uniforms/outfits.
Posted by MikeD
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 3/12/24 at 6:34 pm to
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Those folks will be fine. The ones who simply wanted to go to school and play a sport will not.


The other thing not discussed as often, but university athletics basically subsidize the training for US Olympic programs, and also other countries national teams that have athletes on scholarship.
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
28066 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 6:37 pm to
Hockey would make the cut, as would wrasslin for about 30ish schools.

and college baseball would also make the cut

many donors would increase their money to those programs. Owner of bills fully supports penn st hockey, which is how they became div1 hockey w/o funding a womans team, i believe, or maybe he's stuck funding female hockey also???
Posted by Ghost of Colby
Alberta, overlooking B.C.
Member since Jan 2009
11239 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 6:45 pm to
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university athletics basically subsidize the training for US Olympic programs, and also other countries national teams that have athletes on scholarship.

Don’t expect your kid to get offered a golf or tennis scholarship, unless they are really, really good. So many of those go to foreign students.

Track and Field is another that sport that colleges subsidizes training for a large number of foreign “student-athletes”.
Posted by Geauxldninja
Member since May 2018
1484 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 6:54 pm to
This may be a stupid question, but is there a way to separate football & basketball from the other sports? As in football/basketball etc. Will be deemed employees of the university but other sports remain amateur and retain their status of student athlete.
Posted by lsufan1971
Zachary
Member since Nov 2003
18282 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 6:59 pm to
Saban made a good point today on this subject. If athletes are deemed employees every state they play they will be required to pay income tax in that state just like NFL,NBA and MLB players.
This post was edited on 3/12/24 at 7:00 pm
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145174 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 7:02 pm to
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Good. Let them learn the hard way that the worth of a college scholarship Is more than "zero"
hell yea. those uppity good for nothings need to be taught a lesson
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 3/12/24 at 7:12 pm to
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and college baseball would also make the cut


Baseball is an absolute goner. Mississippi State can't play LSU 35 times a year. There won't be enough teams left to sustain the sport. Hell, football is going to be hard-pressed to survive.
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
79144 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 7:15 pm to
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Baseball is an absolute goner. Mississippi State can't play LSU 35 times a year. There won't be enough teams left to sustain the sport. Hell, football is going to be hard-pressed to survive.
yeah not a big revenue generator at 95% of the schools out there, it's fringe at most places really
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
28066 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 7:19 pm to
for a large group, donors would be asked to flip the bill

and since majority of cash will go to top 2 sports, donors will have money left to ensure those programs stay around
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
17937 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 7:23 pm to
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Good. Let them learn the hard way that the worth of a college scholarship Is more than "zero", and that they should appreciate having the chance to get a free education.

The non revenue sports are the ones with kids only on partial scholarships. My sport started beginning of September and goes on for another 2-3 weeks. I wouldn't be too far ahead of minimum wage per hour. Your beef isn't with folks getting partial scholarships, unless you're just bitter about your lack of athleticism.
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