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re: Erik Prince said China was behind AT&T outage

Posted on 2/29/24 at 12:43 pm to
Posted by NoBoDawg
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 2/29/24 at 12:43 pm to
lol! Let’s say China or anymore else was responsible for this, do people not think that the US retaliation would be worse for them?!! This is stupid
Posted by fisherscatfan
Indianapolis
Member since Sep 2020
497 posts
Posted on 2/29/24 at 12:47 pm to
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Calling bull shite. A lot more businesses were partially shut down than just AT&T. AT&T was just the biggest.

Solar flares. The x-ray signals were literally off the charts before the outages. Monitoring x-ray frequency is just an indicator for many other frequencies that can potentially do damage to electrical systems.


Honest question. If it was China do you honestly believe the US Government would own up? They tried to downplay spy balloons floated across the US.
Posted by Iron Lion
Sipsey
Member since Nov 2014
11840 posts
Posted on 2/29/24 at 12:48 pm to
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lol! Let’s say China or anymore else was responsible for this, do people not think that the US retaliation would be worse for them?!! This is stupid

What was the retaliation for the spy balloon?
Posted by Byrdybyrd05
Member since Nov 2014
25720 posts
Posted on 2/29/24 at 12:48 pm to
I have no faith with Biden and the left in charge that they would do anything
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
21813 posts
Posted on 2/29/24 at 12:51 pm to
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Solar flares. The x-ray signals were literally off the charts before the outages.


It was 4am so maybe it was lunar flares.

Dumbass.
Posted by lake chuck fan
westlake
Member since Aug 2011
9270 posts
Posted on 2/29/24 at 12:54 pm to
Just watched it. Sounds very reasonable, anyone who doesn't think so has their head in the sand and doesn't understand how exposed America is to cyber attacks. My biggest takeaway was Prince's explanation of how China takes the long game, scheme and plan for years down the road. Comparing China to a neighbor who mors his fence a few inches on your land every few years. Those few inches add up after a while.
I've listened to Prince on several interviews and find him very intelligent and credible.
Posted by Grigio
Member since May 2023
605 posts
Posted on 2/29/24 at 12:59 pm to
This post was edited on 4/5/24 at 2:44 pm
Posted by navy
Parts Unknown, LA
Member since Sep 2010
29078 posts
Posted on 2/29/24 at 1:01 pm to
Isn’t Prince pushing Freedom Phones or something like that?
Posted by Plx1776
Member since Oct 2017
16281 posts
Posted on 2/29/24 at 1:02 pm to
External boogeyman =/= internal threat.

Nazi propaganda...which was standard German propaganda in the 30s, led to German Jews being isolated and attacked by their own neighbors. A lot of the German propaganda of that era is akin to the woke propaganda of our current era. Propaganda that dehumanizes other Americans.

Are you hopped up on the external threat of China ..that you believe China will holocaust us? They'll round us up?

Whatever external boogeyman China is, they've no power in America unless powerful American elites give them power.

I've no concern over Russia or China, or any external boogeymen. I do have concerns about internal problems, though.

Our internal problems include states taking children away from parents because parents won't partake in trans affirming. American elites giving other countries the power to frick with our society. Our judicial system no longer being blind. Etc..
Posted by jake wade
North LA
Member since Oct 2007
1706 posts
Posted on 2/29/24 at 1:06 pm to
Has AT&T made a statement as to why it happened?
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119044 posts
Posted on 2/29/24 at 1:16 pm to
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It was 4am so maybe it was lunar flares.

Dumbass.


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A study of the normal run magnetogram data of two equatorial stations, Kodaikanal (Geo. Long. 77 deg 28 min E, Dip 3.5 deg N) and Huancayo (Geo. Long. 75 deg 20 min W, Dip 2.0 deg N), for a three year period (1969-1971), showed that solar flare effects on geomagnetic variation do occur even in the dark hemisphere. The night time geomagnetic effects of solar flares as observed at Kodaikanal are noticed to exhibit a distinct shape and possess sufficient amplitude in the H-component (more than 4 times the distance from the earth's center at the maximum). A comparative study of the characteristics of the night time geomagnetic effects of solar flares observed at Kodaikanal in relation to the simultaneous day time effects observed at Huancayo, revealed that the night time effects are characterized by slower rise and decay compared to day time effects.



Night time geomagnetic effects of solar flares.
Posted by RollTide71
Member since Dec 2023
1764 posts
Posted on 2/29/24 at 1:55 pm to
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Are you hopped up on the external threat of China ..that you believe China will holocaust us? They'll round us up?
Not really. The democrats are MUCH more likely to "holcaust" the conservatives. I'm just pointing out that just because it may seem "crazy" at the time, doesn't mean it won't happen in the future.

I read 1984 back in the 1980's and thought this is freaky crazy and would NEVER happen. 40 years later and it's coming true.
This post was edited on 2/29/24 at 2:07 pm
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
49074 posts
Posted on 2/29/24 at 2:36 pm to
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What's the purpose?


Said it was on purpose as a warning to US to stay out of Taiwan
Posted by Face69
Member since Jun 2015
286 posts
Posted on 2/29/24 at 2:41 pm to
Solar Flares at night? Wow some kinda stupid to believe that!
Posted by LegalEazyE
Madison, Wisconsin
Member since Nov 2023
2628 posts
Posted on 2/29/24 at 3:23 pm to
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What's the purpose?


You serious, Clark?
Posted by LegalEazyE
Madison, Wisconsin
Member since Nov 2023
2628 posts
Posted on 2/29/24 at 3:24 pm to
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That or CIA

It’s sad I don’t know which one I’m leaning towards


Why not both?
Posted by The Eric
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
21019 posts
Posted on 2/29/24 at 3:25 pm to
More like your own government as a false flag to increase taxes and take away more freedoms.
Posted by lake chuck fan
westlake
Member since Aug 2011
9270 posts
Posted on 2/29/24 at 3:33 pm to
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Whatever external boogeyman China is, they've no power in America unless powerful American elites give them power.

I've no concern over Russia or China, or any external boogeymen. I do have concerns about internal problems, though.

Our internal problems include states taking children away from parents because parents won't partake in trans affirming. American elites giving other countries the power to frick with our society. Our judicial system no longer being blind. Etc..


I agree with your statement, mostly. All the issues you listed are certainly true, but two things can be true at once.
I believe China has gained influence thru bribery and blackmail. I believe China is laying the groundwork for some type of future aggression, not a typical military attack. China strategies are planned years ahead of time. They don't mind waiting a decade.
Posted by LSU Grad Alabama Fan
369 Cardboard Box Lane
Member since Nov 2019
10355 posts
Posted on 2/29/24 at 3:39 pm to
If I can't check to see who liked my post every hour on the hour then I'm going to be pissed.
Posted by Captain Rumbeard
Member since Jan 2014
4203 posts
Posted on 2/29/24 at 3:46 pm to
That's not how cyber warfare works. At all.

If they were able to do that it was because they got something either dropped onto that system, or they exploited a vulnerability that they didn't know was there but China did.

Now if you're China, what the frick would you burn your ability to do that for? Because once you've done it, you no longer have that route back in. They spend YEARS working on getting stuff to that moment where the next step is to pull the trigger and they don't. We do the same. Because if you use it at the wrong time, you simply wasted all that effort and money and showed your hand and how you did it this time will never work again.

So no. They probably didn't do that.
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