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Uh Oh... Some want New Orleans Public Schools to take back directly running schools

Posted on 2/22/24 at 10:03 am
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
38162 posts
Posted on 2/22/24 at 10:03 am
For the uninformed... all New Orleans public schools are charters. The school board basically oversees the charters, owns most of the buildings and land (a few charters built their own buildings) and handle collecting revenue and paying the charters to run the schools.

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“Since I campaigned for this position, people were saying, ‘We need direct-run schools, we need our schools back,’” said board member Leila Jacobs Eames, a former public school educator and administrator. “So that's the direction we're trying to go in.”


Who in the world is telling this person that? The schools are currently the best they have been in 50 years. They are FAR from perfect... but the vast majority are well run, and when they aren't well run, the charter operator gets fired.

You will never fix the accountability of parents, but you have fixed the accountability of the schools and school administrators.

And the schools are doing a better job of managing money. It's been cool to see the number of charter middle schools and charter middle/high schools, and even a few charter elementary schools, put together bands and march in oarades. That never happened before.

So, what kind of people actually think this?

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“The charter school program is a failed experiment,” said Gregory Manning, pastor of Broadmoor Community Church, during Tuesday’s board meeting. “Let's put more direct-run schools in place so we can go back to where we used to be as a city.”


Unless you are a fan of corruption and incompetence, no one in their right mind should want to go back to where we used to be.

This is insane. Charter schools are one of the very few things NOLA has going for it right now.
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
37849 posts
Posted on 2/22/24 at 10:08 am to
Nothing will help. It doesn't matter how you run the schools. I feel horrible for the kids that actually want to be there because they almost have no chance.
Posted by WavinWilly
Wavin Away in Sharlo
Member since Oct 2010
8796 posts
Posted on 2/22/24 at 10:08 am to
I'm not doubting you but is there data to show that the New Orleans public schools (charter schools) are the best they have been?

I've always been frustrated by the education system there and would love to see data showing things are improving.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
100013 posts
Posted on 2/22/24 at 10:13 am to
Orleans Parish schools were nearly taken over by the state in 2005.

Katrina happening allowed them to rebuild the system in a way that wouldn’t have otherwise happened, as there would have been no way to go full parish charter without an Act Of God destroying the city.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
38162 posts
Posted on 2/22/24 at 10:20 am to
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I'm not doubting you but is there data to show that the New Orleans public schools (charter schools) are the best they have been?


Right now overall Orleans Parish schools are rated a "C"

That's made up of an "F" in overall scores, but an "A" in score progress improvement.

School Performance Score (SPS) was a 69.8. State average was 78.5.

In 2004, the year before Katrina, the old system was three stars, two stars, one star, or academic warning.

Orleans was one of two districts under academic warning. Their SPS was a 51.2, state average was 82.6.

So the parish relative to the state has gone from -31.4 to -8.7.
Posted by TSmith
New Orleans, La.
Member since Jan 2004
1800 posts
Posted on 2/22/24 at 10:20 am to
I'm old enough to remember the days prior to the charter schools and it was an absolute shite show. There used to be a public access channel on Cox in New Orleans (Ch 08?) that used to televise their meetings and it was a circus.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
38162 posts
Posted on 2/22/24 at 10:25 am to
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I'm old enough to remember the days prior to the charter schools and it was an absolute shite show. There used to be a public access channel on Cox in New Orleans (Ch 08?) that used to televise their meetings and it was a circus.


Sandra "18-Wheeler" Hester

Would act like an absolute fool at every meeting.

Posted by Duckhammer_77
TD Platinum member
Member since Nov 2016
2773 posts
Posted on 2/22/24 at 10:32 am to
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so we can go back to where we used to be as a city.”

WTF, how can anyone say this with a straight face...unless...

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collecting revenue and paying the charters

oh, well there you go...follow the dollar
Posted by Privateer 2007
Member since Jan 2020
6774 posts
Posted on 2/22/24 at 10:33 am to
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we need our schools back


Racist bitch.
Too much Whitey.
Too many blacks acting white with accountability and shite.

Posted by Locoguan0
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2017
5274 posts
Posted on 2/22/24 at 10:41 am to
Take SPS reported by charters (and any school, really) with a huge grain of salt. The corruption in reporting is disgustingly rampant. It is all a shell game. Many schools scores go up because they force very student to take dual enrollment and AP courses, tweak this program or that, and voila, improved SPS. Doesn't matter if they pass; The school system still gets the points. EBR does this at every high school, while forcing middle school kids to take HS credit classes (many of which are not worth taking).
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
16223 posts
Posted on 2/22/24 at 10:44 am to
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Unless you are a fan of corruption and incompetence

Plot twist. They ARE fans of corruption and incompetence as evidenced by what happens every time they get to vote.
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
21900 posts
Posted on 2/22/24 at 10:46 am to
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Charter schools are one of the very few things NOLA has going for it right now.

I seriously have no idea. All I do know is I am moving to Northshore if my kids don’t get into Willow (formerly Lusher), Audubon, or Hynes.
This post was edited on 2/22/24 at 10:47 am
Posted by Ghost of Colby
Alberta, overlooking B.C.
Member since Jan 2009
12724 posts
Posted on 2/22/24 at 10:46 am to
Two problems can arise with charter schools. One is that when they are poorly run, then it’s an absolute disaster.

The other is that a lot of money flows through the charter system. Anytime there’s a mix of politics, non-profits, and money then it will attract a lot of grifters.

Both can be largely prevented by competent oversight. The charter concept is great, but it’s still New Orleans. The best they can do is separate and educate the kids that show up and put forth at least a little effort.
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
53630 posts
Posted on 2/22/24 at 11:11 am to
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So the parish relative to the state has gone from -31.4 to -8.7.


So that's what the proponents of moving away from charter schools want to "move back to"?

I can only guess that they are either uneducated on that level or progress or else are counting on the rest of the public being uneducated on it. Oh, irony...
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 2/22/24 at 11:13 am to
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“The charter school program is a failed experiment,” said Gregory Manning, pastor of Broadmoor Community Church, during Tuesday’s board meeting. “Let's put more direct-run schools in place so we can go back to where we used to be as a city.”


He's a fricking idiot



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Charter schools are one of the very few things NOLA has going for it right now.


Exactly.....it's worked out almost perfectly by accident
Posted by PrettyBird
Aspen
Member since Feb 2010
10389 posts
Posted on 2/22/24 at 11:15 am to
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almost perfectly


That is a STRETCH, but yes I believe the data shows they are doing better now than pre-Katrina.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 2/22/24 at 11:16 am to
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Gregory Manning, pastor of Broadmoor Community Church


Just another Yankee Carpetbagger
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 2/22/24 at 11:16 am to
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That is a STRETCH, but yes I believe the data shows they are doing better now than pre-Katrina.



I said ALMOST...

Posted by Hetfield
Dallas
Member since Jun 2013
7888 posts
Posted on 2/22/24 at 11:17 am to
Whatever happened to Sandra 18 Wheeler Hester? The Hester Report was required Sunday night viewing when I lived there before Katrina. You never knew what she was going to say or do.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 2/22/24 at 11:19 am to
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Pastor Gregory T. Manning was ARRESTED today while speaking out against the petrochemical invasion of the river parishes at the Louisiana Association of Business and Industry. Visit stopformosa.org to donate and #StopFormosa and other chemical plants from being built.


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