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Are out of state colleges worth it?
Posted on 2/20/24 at 12:33 pm
Posted on 2/20/24 at 12:33 pm
How good does the school have to be to make out of state tuition worth it rather than going to LSU or another in state school. For a major that is useful such as pre med, finance, etc.
Posted on 2/20/24 at 12:37 pm to TigahsOnTop
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out of state tuition worth it
There’s almost no situation where this is worth it unless there are scholarships being offered
Posted on 2/20/24 at 12:39 pm to TigahsOnTop
I’ve sent two to out of state private colleges, both great schools. It’s a different kind of investment, that’s for sure. Don’t do it if loans are required.
Posted on 2/20/24 at 12:39 pm to JimTiger72
Easier to get a high paying job with a degree from Vanderbilt rather than Southeastern
Posted on 2/20/24 at 12:41 pm to TigahsOnTop
For the overwhelming majority of careers, where you get your Bachelors degree does not matter.
For a small number of careers, where you get your Bachelors degree matters very much. Some examples....top tier private equity, investment banking, working for the top 3 consulting firms (Bain, Boston Consulting, McKinsey) and high level corporate strategy.
For some of these finance roles, going to a school like UVA, Texas or Michigan would open doors that LSU cannot.
For pre med, do not chase undergraduate prestige. Get the highest GPA possible at LSU, move heaven & earth to shadow doctors somewhere and kill it on the MCAT.
For a small number of careers, where you get your Bachelors degree matters very much. Some examples....top tier private equity, investment banking, working for the top 3 consulting firms (Bain, Boston Consulting, McKinsey) and high level corporate strategy.
For some of these finance roles, going to a school like UVA, Texas or Michigan would open doors that LSU cannot.
For pre med, do not chase undergraduate prestige. Get the highest GPA possible at LSU, move heaven & earth to shadow doctors somewhere and kill it on the MCAT.
Posted on 2/20/24 at 12:41 pm to TigahsOnTop
A win/win is to move to Texas. Better universities, better quality of life.
Posted on 2/20/24 at 12:41 pm to TigahsOnTop
Not getting shot at a railroad crossing would make it worth to me.
Posted on 2/20/24 at 12:41 pm to Mr Roboto
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Easier to get a high paying job with a degree from Vanderbilt rather than Southeastern
With the same major? Nope
no employer has ever cared where I got my degree from
Posted on 2/20/24 at 12:41 pm to TigahsOnTop
Pharmacy, dental, med school, you go where you can get in. Maybe PA also.
I'd go for the engineer degree from A&M over LSU.
I'd go for the engineer degree from A&M over LSU.
This post was edited on 2/20/24 at 12:43 pm
Posted on 2/20/24 at 12:42 pm to Mr Roboto
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Easier to get a high paying job with a degree from Vanderbilt rather than Southeastern
Holy false dichotomy!
Posted on 2/20/24 at 12:42 pm to TigahsOnTop
The two scenarios where I think it makes more sense:
- Your in state flagships aren't very good and/or have limited reach in places you'd want to work. I don't think there are a lot of those situations.
- Your flagship in-state schools are out of reach. This is more controversial, but if you can't go to UGA in Georgia (or GT but it's obviously become more niche), you're going to be in a web of underachiever fun schools like GA Southern, big, soulless commuter schools like Kennesaw State and Georgia State, and often-oddball small colleges.
Contrary to popular belief I think undergrad choice can matter based on the circumstance. Not that you can't get a good education at Berry College, but going there vs. Clemson is probably going to impact your young adult path pretty heavily.
- Your in state flagships aren't very good and/or have limited reach in places you'd want to work. I don't think there are a lot of those situations.
- Your flagship in-state schools are out of reach. This is more controversial, but if you can't go to UGA in Georgia (or GT but it's obviously become more niche), you're going to be in a web of underachiever fun schools like GA Southern, big, soulless commuter schools like Kennesaw State and Georgia State, and often-oddball small colleges.
Contrary to popular belief I think undergrad choice can matter based on the circumstance. Not that you can't get a good education at Berry College, but going there vs. Clemson is probably going to impact your young adult path pretty heavily.
Posted on 2/20/24 at 12:44 pm to TigahsOnTop
It’s only worth it if you are going for a very specific reason like an out of state offers a program of study not offered at a comparable school in LA or something. If my kid gets accepted to an out of state school that has a high job placement rate in her field then I don’t mind the extra cash. And I’m not talking about community planning degrees.
Posted on 2/20/24 at 12:44 pm to TigahsOnTop
depends on the school and where you plan to live
for example...an engineering degree from GT maybe worth it over LSU if you plan to live in Atlanta
but for the most part, no. now finance and business and some of the other degrees...have specific schools that hold a lot of weight. but for the average person, especially one that wants to live in LA and is just getting tops and no scholarship to out of state....then no. you can go look up mid career earnings pretty quickly and see that.
now there are cases where schools like bama are giving full rides to out of state students...in cases like that...yea its worth it.
for example...an engineering degree from GT maybe worth it over LSU if you plan to live in Atlanta
but for the most part, no. now finance and business and some of the other degrees...have specific schools that hold a lot of weight. but for the average person, especially one that wants to live in LA and is just getting tops and no scholarship to out of state....then no. you can go look up mid career earnings pretty quickly and see that.
now there are cases where schools like bama are giving full rides to out of state students...in cases like that...yea its worth it.
Posted on 2/20/24 at 12:45 pm to SneezyBeltranIsHere
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For the overwhelming majority of careers, where you get your Bachelors degree does not matter.
For a small number of careers, where you get your Bachelors degree matters very much. Some examples....top tier private equity, investment banking, working for the top 3 consulting firms (Bain, Boston Consulting, McKinsey) and high level corporate strategy.
For some of these finance roles, going to a school like UVA, Texas or Michigan would open doors that LSU cannot.
For pre med, do not chase undergraduate prestige. Get the highest GPA possible at LSU, move heaven & earth to shadow doctors somewhere and kill it on the MCAT.
I don't know about med school, but in addition to the above, undergrad matters for professional degree programs, at least by the numbers.
I think it's hard to discern because the type of kids going to t25 law schools predominately go to bigger/higher prestige undergrads. But the simple fact is that in your high end law/MBA programs you're not going to find a bunch of directional school grads. Honestly, with the exception of some prestigious ones, you're not going to find a lot of private liberal art college grads either (at least in our region).
Posted on 2/20/24 at 12:48 pm to TigahsOnTop
It depends.
Some programs have really nice facilities, world-renound faculty, an impressive alumni network, and useful internships.
Identify what matters most, create a grading rubric based on wants/needs, compare the in-state school and any out-of-state schools being considered, and make an infirmed decision.
Or ask the OT and be prepared for useless advice and rants about how not everyone needs to go to college/college is useless/there are too many institutions of higher learning/join the military/start trade school instead.
Some programs have really nice facilities, world-renound faculty, an impressive alumni network, and useful internships.
Identify what matters most, create a grading rubric based on wants/needs, compare the in-state school and any out-of-state schools being considered, and make an infirmed decision.
Or ask the OT and be prepared for useless advice and rants about how not everyone needs to go to college/college is useless/there are too many institutions of higher learning/join the military/start trade school instead.
Posted on 2/20/24 at 12:49 pm to TigahsOnTop
Louisiana kids can go to Arkansas for in-state rates. Several touching states actually. Mine from Texas went there w 27 hours out of HS and finished in 3 years. Pretty good value.
Posted on 2/20/24 at 12:52 pm to Pettifogger
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I think it's hard to discern because the type of kids going to t25 law schools predominately go to bigger/higher prestige undergrads. But the simple fact is that in your high end law/MBA programs you're not going to find a bunch of directional school grads.
You will find plenty of people from state flagship public universities at M7 MBA programs and the top 10 law schools. You will find more kids from the highly selective Top 20 private schools. Is that because the kids are smarter or is it the prestige of their institution? Likely, a bit of both.
Posted on 2/20/24 at 12:53 pm to TigahsOnTop
Depends on what state you are in.
Posted on 2/20/24 at 12:55 pm to TigahsOnTop
Depends on the situation.
If it is a major you can’t get in the state, you get in state rates through the Academic Common Market.
If it is a major you get in your state, the main reason to do it would be if the alumni network you would be plugged into would be a major boost for any future career.
You can get the same education at Harvard, Vandy, or West Virginia in some subjects but the contacts made at Harvard tend to be far more valuable than ones at Vandy or West Virginia unless you plan to be in very specific areas.
If it is a major you can’t get in the state, you get in state rates through the Academic Common Market.
If it is a major you get in your state, the main reason to do it would be if the alumni network you would be plugged into would be a major boost for any future career.
You can get the same education at Harvard, Vandy, or West Virginia in some subjects but the contacts made at Harvard tend to be far more valuable than ones at Vandy or West Virginia unless you plan to be in very specific areas.
Posted on 2/20/24 at 12:55 pm to JimTiger72
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With the same major? Nope no employer has ever cared where I got my degree from
The employers that care aren’t even interviewing you
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