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re: Anybody have JAG experience?
Posted on 2/14/24 at 7:35 pm to Masterag
Posted on 2/14/24 at 7:35 pm to Masterag
Graduating law school debt free because Uncle Sam paid for it is a great way to start. But you may owe the military more than the standard 4 years if they pay for your law school.
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Posted on 2/14/24 at 7:36 pm to TheOcean
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I'm JAG in the army reserves. If you want to go JAG, go air force. Way better QOL
AF is a buncha sjws in my experience. Not the folks I want to be around on a daily basis.
I actually want to learn the tactical side as well as the legal side of things.
Posted on 2/14/24 at 7:37 pm to PetroBabich
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Graduating law school debt free because Uncle Sam paid for it is a great way to start. But you may owe the military more than the standard 4 years if they pay for your law school.
They only pay 5k/yr unless you’re already active duty. I like the marines cause you get to be a marine and then go straight into litigation.
Posted on 2/14/24 at 7:43 pm to Masterag
Well, that sounds well thought. IMO Enjoy the ride and focus less on the destination.
Posted on 2/14/24 at 7:58 pm to Masterag
Very little you do as a USMC JA will prepare you for private practice. It's the military, basically a government gig. I don't think I've done one thing in my six years as an Army JAG that would have helped me in private practice ![](https://images.tigerdroppings.com/Images/Icons/IconLOL.gif)
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Posted on 2/14/24 at 8:08 pm to Masterag
You ain't doing anything tactical as a JAG, baw.
Posted on 2/14/24 at 8:33 pm to TheOcean
I interned for prosecution AF JAGs overseeing 5/6 bases. 90% was Art. 15s but some of the dumb criminal shite was hilarious.
Posted on 2/14/24 at 8:39 pm to Masterag
Read up on code reds and lactic acidosis.
Posted on 2/14/24 at 8:41 pm to Masterag
This is what I remember most about “JAG.”
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Posted on 2/14/24 at 8:45 pm to Masterag
I was a chaser and had to pick up Marines from the brig and take them to talk to their assigned jag officer. Those lawyer dudes never seemed like they were having a good time.
Posted on 2/14/24 at 8:48 pm to Masterag
Fellow Classmate was in JAG
All I got
All I got
Posted on 2/14/24 at 8:52 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
Joes do some hilariously dumb shite. It's actually impressive. OP doesn't want to go AF because they are SJWs. Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but every branch has a ton of SJW bullshite.
Posted on 2/14/24 at 9:01 pm to Masterag
My college roommate’s brother went to West Point, then the military sent him to one of the top law schools. He eventually became The Judge Advicate General of the Army. It’s been a good life for him, but he did get to the very top. I don’t know what it is like for others.
I do know he did have to learn how to jump out of airplanes and was deployed. Probably why we can’t win a war anymore - we send lawyers into war zones to make sure we do stuff “right.” Not gonna win a war that way.
I do know he did have to learn how to jump out of airplanes and was deployed. Probably why we can’t win a war anymore - we send lawyers into war zones to make sure we do stuff “right.” Not gonna win a war that way.
Posted on 2/14/24 at 9:09 pm to TheOcean
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Joes do some hilariously dumb shite. It's actually impressive. OP doesn't want to go AF because they are SJWs. Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but every branch has a ton of SJW bullshite
The Army is easily the most woke right now. I'm actually embarrassed for them.
Posted on 2/14/24 at 9:10 pm to Mear
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You ain't doing anything tactical as a JAG, baw.
We all go to the Basic School
Posted on 2/14/24 at 9:28 pm to Northshore Aggie
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We all go to the Basic School
He means tactical, as in in being in actual danger, I suspect. Because that doesn't happen in basic.
Posted on 2/14/24 at 9:52 pm to Masterag
Marine JAG is the real deal -same training as the grunts. All the other JAG trainings are different than enlisted. I was recruited and did interviews but I felt it was too much of a time suck after graduation.
Posted on 2/15/24 at 12:11 am to LemmyLives
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He means tactical, as in in being in actual danger, I suspect. Because that doesn't happen in basic.
“Being in actual danger”?? It sounds like you are talking about riding in the back seat of your grandmas Buick or Oldsmobile on the way to the local bingo hall. Possibly with your pawpaw in the back with you.
I guarantee you will learn tactics at TBS.
Posted on 2/15/24 at 1:08 am to Masterag
Here's what I saw from most JAGs:
Apart from really mundane stuff that will bore you like determining if a unit can have a bake sale...They don't seek truth or justice, they just want to please some senior officer that gives subtle hints on how to dispose of certain cases while avoiding unlawful command influence. Then when you call them on this they talk about being a "zealous advocate" while violating their obligations to be truthful and seek justice. The Constitution, which is what you will swear to support and defend, does not talk about protecting the chain of command - it talks about due process, but JAGs seem to forget about that.
I have seen false police reports, lying under oath, obstructing justice, deliberate avoidance of duty, hiding evidence, and more.
I don't know what your experience is with administrative stuff, but there is nothing but injustice in the military administrative system and you'll be called upon to defend it and use it to destroy people's lives. The military likes to use admin routes to skip over or lower the burden of proof when they want to get rid of people and levy accusations that ought to demand a court proceeding and robust due process. This is also where the most shady stuff takes place.
Our military is full of corrupt senior officers and JAGs that live to protect them.
Paralegals can handle people that piss hot and get discharged.
If you're ok with sucking a bunch of senior officer dick and railroading people (aka ruining their lives) that have done more for our national defense than those senior officers ever will, and if you want to shite on your oath and the Constitution...then go be a JAG.
Apart from really mundane stuff that will bore you like determining if a unit can have a bake sale...They don't seek truth or justice, they just want to please some senior officer that gives subtle hints on how to dispose of certain cases while avoiding unlawful command influence. Then when you call them on this they talk about being a "zealous advocate" while violating their obligations to be truthful and seek justice. The Constitution, which is what you will swear to support and defend, does not talk about protecting the chain of command - it talks about due process, but JAGs seem to forget about that.
I have seen false police reports, lying under oath, obstructing justice, deliberate avoidance of duty, hiding evidence, and more.
I don't know what your experience is with administrative stuff, but there is nothing but injustice in the military administrative system and you'll be called upon to defend it and use it to destroy people's lives. The military likes to use admin routes to skip over or lower the burden of proof when they want to get rid of people and levy accusations that ought to demand a court proceeding and robust due process. This is also where the most shady stuff takes place.
Our military is full of corrupt senior officers and JAGs that live to protect them.
Paralegals can handle people that piss hot and get discharged.
If you're ok with sucking a bunch of senior officer dick and railroading people (aka ruining their lives) that have done more for our national defense than those senior officers ever will, and if you want to shite on your oath and the Constitution...then go be a JAG.
Posted on 2/15/24 at 2:09 am to Masterag
Haven't you already been directed to capitalize the word "Marine"?
Based on this observation alone, you should probably choose another branch of the military!
Based on this observation alone, you should probably choose another branch of the military!
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