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Charlotte POBO steps down, Langdon a name to watch as replacement
Posted on 2/12/24 at 7:36 am
Posted on 2/12/24 at 7:36 am
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ESPN Sources: Charlotte Hornets President of Basketball Operations Mitch Kupchak is stepping down to become an organizational advisor, clearing way for franchise to begin an immediate search for a new head of basketball operations.
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Among several league executives expected to be considered in the process: New Orleans GM Trajan Langdon, Brooklyn assistant GM Jeff Peterson, Cleveland GM Mike Gansey, Philadelphia GM Elton Brand, and others, sources tell ESPN.
Posted on 2/12/24 at 8:00 am to Chad504boy
Yeah if offered he wouldn’t turn this down, everything else he’s been offered that he turned down was GM jobs.
Posted on 2/12/24 at 8:40 am to Soggymoss
If they want him, he's probably gone. It's a good opportunity for him.
Posted on 2/12/24 at 8:53 am to supe12sta12z
The good news is that the assistant GM, Bryson Graham, was always given equal credit on the drafting. Not to mention the draft strategy is pretty well established and should be simple to keep going.
Posted on 2/12/24 at 9:05 am to Louisianabound88
You’re being foolish. This franchise.
underwent a demonstrably positive
transformation after Griff arrived.
underwent a demonstrably positive
transformation after Griff arrived.
Posted on 2/12/24 at 9:41 am to VOR
We don't know what's actually going on behind the scenes, but between what has been stated publicly and the results we can see with our own eyes I'm pretty sure the following is accurate.
1) Griff squandered assets by not picking a direction and trying to both compete and develop at the same time. That means instead of getting paid to take on guys like Horford, something OKC did, he paid to take on guys that didn't end up helping the Pels like Steven Adams and Derrick Favors.
2) The team swung and missed repeatedly in the draft the first 2 years. Going for high upside in a draft isn't an inherently bad idea, but they clearly were not good at it.
3) While keeping Gentry was probably more Gayle's suggestion than Griff's plan, Griff fired 2 coaches in his first 2 years. For hiring the 3rd coach, it is believed that Willie was Trajan and Swin's choice.
4) We saw a dramatic shift in draft strategy after failing miserably on high ceiling picks like Jaxson Hayes and Kira Lewis Jr. The new strategy of focusing on older players that have proven they know how to play basketball lead to Herb, Trey, Jose, and Naji. Credit for the improved drafting has been given to Trajan and Bryson.
I'm not saying Griffin was not on board with the direction changes that shifted the team from bad decisions to better decisions, but all indications are that the good decisions have come when Griff has stepped back and allowed others to do their job. Hopefully Griff has learned a lot too and can keep things rolling without Trajan if he leaves. Griff has a few good skills, he just needs to focus on what he's good at and let the staff he hired focus on what they're good at.
1) Griff squandered assets by not picking a direction and trying to both compete and develop at the same time. That means instead of getting paid to take on guys like Horford, something OKC did, he paid to take on guys that didn't end up helping the Pels like Steven Adams and Derrick Favors.
2) The team swung and missed repeatedly in the draft the first 2 years. Going for high upside in a draft isn't an inherently bad idea, but they clearly were not good at it.
3) While keeping Gentry was probably more Gayle's suggestion than Griff's plan, Griff fired 2 coaches in his first 2 years. For hiring the 3rd coach, it is believed that Willie was Trajan and Swin's choice.
4) We saw a dramatic shift in draft strategy after failing miserably on high ceiling picks like Jaxson Hayes and Kira Lewis Jr. The new strategy of focusing on older players that have proven they know how to play basketball lead to Herb, Trey, Jose, and Naji. Credit for the improved drafting has been given to Trajan and Bryson.
I'm not saying Griffin was not on board with the direction changes that shifted the team from bad decisions to better decisions, but all indications are that the good decisions have come when Griff has stepped back and allowed others to do their job. Hopefully Griff has learned a lot too and can keep things rolling without Trajan if he leaves. Griff has a few good skills, he just needs to focus on what he's good at and let the staff he hired focus on what they're good at.
Posted on 2/12/24 at 10:41 am to TigerinATL
1) The original strategy was to compete early in the Zion era Zion's injury and Jrue's request out changed the time.
2) No real argument, but a lot of it is luck. And the Nicolo Melli mistake is 100% on Trajan, not Griff.
2) No real argument, but a lot of it is luck. And the Nicolo Melli mistake is 100% on Trajan, not Griff.
Posted on 2/12/24 at 1:12 pm to VOR
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You’re being foolish. This franchise. underwent a demonstrably positive transformation after Griff arrived.
Griff was gifted a hell of a head start when he arrived but I’ll give him credit for raising the floor. One can say he drafts well but for every Trey Murphy and Herb Jones there’s also a Dyson, Kira, and Jax. I will know after the next BI extension whether he’s actually trying to win or not.
Posted on 2/12/24 at 1:15 pm to Louisianabound88
Dyson was and is still a good pick. Every team has Kiras and Hayes. But the front office put together a very good team. At the end of the day, that's all that matters.
Posted on 2/12/24 at 2:20 pm to supe12sta12z
2019 and 2020; being infatuated with high upside guys.
They wanted to turn high upside athletes with minimal basketball IQ (Kira, Jax, NAW) into replicas of star talent (AD, Fox, SGA).
Realized mistakes and shifted gears in 2021 getting more senior, mature players with limited upside and high floors.
- 3&D wing in trey
- defensive 'jack of all trades' in herb
- scrappy camp body in jose
2022
- defensive PG, but turned it up the 2nd half of the season in dyson
2023
- sharpshooter who could handle the ball in small spurts; questionable defensively.
Also fun fact; we drafted nick richards in 2020...we traded his rights. talk about a bad draft year.
They wanted to turn high upside athletes with minimal basketball IQ (Kira, Jax, NAW) into replicas of star talent (AD, Fox, SGA).
Realized mistakes and shifted gears in 2021 getting more senior, mature players with limited upside and high floors.
- 3&D wing in trey
- defensive 'jack of all trades' in herb
- scrappy camp body in jose
2022
- defensive PG, but turned it up the 2nd half of the season in dyson
2023
- sharpshooter who could handle the ball in small spurts; questionable defensively.
Also fun fact; we drafted nick richards in 2020...we traded his rights. talk about a bad draft year.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 11:03 am to Soggymoss
The Charlotte Hornets have begun their search to replace Mitch Kupchak to run their basketball operations department.
Sources tell Marc Stein that the Brooklyn Nets' Jeff Peterson, New Orleans Pelicans' Trajan Langdon and Minnesota Timberwolves' Matt Lloyd are three leading candidates for the position.
Peterson is a top aide to Sean Marks and Brooklyn has a strong interest in trying to keep him. Peterson previously worked with Hornets' co-owner Rich Schanll with the Atlanta Hawks.
Langdon has been a strong candidate for lead decision-maker jobs previously.
Lloyd was one of Tim Connelly's first hires with the Wolves and has previous experience with the Chicago Bulls and Orlando Magic.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 11:41 am to Soggymoss
At risk of sounding obtuse, what do GMs do in the NBA? When thinking of NBA franchises we're conditioned to think of Griff, Connelly, Morey before Langdon, Lloyd, and Brand. I don't know that I've ever heard of Lauscha having anything to do with Saints roster. It feels like NBA GM is equivalent of like an assistant GM in the NFL? It just seems difficult to evaluate their decision making when there are guys over them and it's unclear what their responsibility even is.
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