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Jennifer Crumbly (school shooter mom) verdict in: Guilty of involuntary manslaughter

Posted on 2/6/24 at 12:19 pm
Posted by Will Munny
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
3079 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 12:19 pm
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In about 10 or 15 minutes
This post was edited on 2/6/24 at 12:45 pm
Posted by jclem11
Neoliberal Shill
Member since Nov 2011
7946 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 12:21 pm to
Better link: Lawyer You Know

frick law and crime
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George
Member since Aug 2004
78240 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 12:35 pm to
This the thing where they are deciding if she is responsible for her son doing the mass shooting?
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
22119 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 12:40 pm to
Horrible situation all around, but I feel Guilty was an emotional tug on jurors.
The public also had a lot of information the jurors didn’t, like Miller Hearing.

I believe this will end up getting overturned further down the line, but this lady will still be in jail, as she has the past 3 years
This post was edited on 2/6/24 at 12:42 pm
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
96891 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 12:43 pm to

Someone put her face over Flash’s.
Posted by Tr33fiddy
Member since Aug 2023
116 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 12:45 pm to
I haven't followed this. I've bought guns for my kids. I'd never expect them to shoot up a school. Did she know their son was a physco and still bought him the gun?
Posted by Adajax
Member since Nov 2015
6202 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 12:53 pm to
Has the dad been charged?
Posted by Privateer 2007
Member since Jan 2020
6277 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 12:59 pm to
This sets a scary precedent.
Clearly these parents are pieces of shite, but it's a dangerous road were going down here.

It also brings up the question, why are lil tay tays parents not held to the same standard?
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
19503 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 1:06 pm to
I watched every day of the trial and it was a nonsense case. The state presented no evidence of how Ethan obtained the gun that day or that it could be foreseen he would shoot up the school when they bought the gun to use at the shooting range. They mainly talked about Jennifer's affairs causing her to "ignore" her son and then appeals to emotion about the kids who were killed.

It's a novel use of the law to blame parents for the crime of their children because Michigan politicians hate guns and should make every parent afraid of being put on trial for the sins of their children.
Posted by John88
Member since Sep 2015
6241 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 1:17 pm to
Posted by Corner Pocket
Member since Feb 2024
69 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 1:21 pm to
Very fricked up story obviously, and the parents come across as very shitty people, but I'm not sure I like this result
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
204218 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 1:22 pm to
They have sent a messsge to parents to pay more attention to you kids….
Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
28670 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 1:39 pm to
seems like a VERY easy case to sell a slippery slope.

buying guns is legal
giving them to your kids is legal
being a bad parent is legal

now they can legislate what they think bad parenting is, and just cite this case to remove kids from parents.

i realize these parents were terrible and should have done 1000 things they didn't do, and could have done EVERYTHING they did better. that's irrelevant.

this is an unemotional processing of what this court precedent will be used for in the future.
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
15909 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 1:46 pm to
This is a tricky one.
She should have done more when she realized her kid was f'ed up. But parents didn't pull the trigger. Civilly liable but not criminally liable IMO.
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
9415 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 3:21 pm to
People finding ways to get out of jury duty need to remember this. It leaves a less qualified pool. Then the ones on jury who might not want to go along with the verdict want to get back to their phones so they give in.

Keep in mind your phone is taken when you go into deliberations. I’ve sat on a jury and it was amazing to me how many took no notes nor paid attention and just went along with the majority.

People always assume every jurist is qualified to be there. They may meet the state requirements but that doesn’t mean they care about you or your case.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
35729 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 3:48 pm to
Good.

She needed to be held responsible.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
30188 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 3:55 pm to
My kid would be so grounded if he did this to me.
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
63877 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 4:12 pm to
quote:

Jennifer Crumbly (school shooter mom) verdict in: Guilty of involuntary manslaughter


Well, that’s the way the cookie Crumbley.
Posted by GCTigahs
Member since Oct 2014
2066 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 4:12 pm to
This should happen to every parent whose kid under the age of 18 commits a felony.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33738 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 5:21 pm to
This board blames EVERYTHING on parenting. The one time a parent is called to account, there's outrage.
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