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re: Why doesn’t LiV just have normal tournaments

Posted on 2/10/24 at 10:02 am to
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
47791 posts
Posted on 2/10/24 at 10:02 am to
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So it is merit based. Not sure why people can't grasp that distinction.


Yes because LIV is throwing millions to guys who CAN’T golf
Posted by Ghost of Colby
Alberta, overlooking B.C.
Member since Jan 2009
11291 posts
Posted on 2/10/24 at 11:44 am to
The LIV leaderboard is absolutely stacked to begin this final round

DJ
Bryson
Rahm
Uihlein
Wolff
Gooch
Kokrack
Smith
Canter
Casey
Bubba
Hatton















Phil


This post was edited on 2/10/24 at 11:50 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95904 posts
Posted on 2/10/24 at 11:45 am to
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They have by far the best leaderboard currently.
I see you are a twitter moron. The top players in liv will always hover more towards the front page of the leaderboard because the bottom have of LIv is bad.

The WM this year still had Scottie, burns, Spieth Jt, Finau, can young and thegala. But they won’t all hover on the front page because the Tour has depth which will float in front of some of them

But even in a non designated event the WM top players are just as stacked as LIV this week
This post was edited on 2/10/24 at 11:47 am
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
203356 posts
Posted on 2/10/24 at 12:02 pm to
Tell me ANY LIV event that has the same atmosphere as the this course in phoenix or Augusta or sawgrass… just to name a few… you can’t.
Posted by theone
LSU
Member since Nov 2005
1831 posts
Posted on 2/10/24 at 12:23 pm to
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and thegala


LOL. Way to prove the point Pride.

Go ahead quote his “world rank”
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95904 posts
Posted on 2/10/24 at 12:27 pm to
Sahith would easily be a top 15 player on LIV. Trying to shite on him only makes LIV look really bad
This post was edited on 2/10/24 at 12:29 pm
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
47791 posts
Posted on 2/10/24 at 12:31 pm to
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top players in liv will always hover more towards the front page of the leaderboard because the bottom have of LIv is bad.


No one watches and no one goes to see the bottom half of the field though
Posted by NaturalBeam
Member since Sep 2007
14524 posts
Posted on 2/10/24 at 12:36 pm to
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The LIV leaderboard is absolutely stacked to begin this final round
Agreed. There are some definite criticisms of LIV, but their format allows for this to happen often, which is great. Yes, I get why it’s allowed to happen so often but who cares? You can see all those big names go head-to-head, so I don’t particularly care if it’s a limited field or not.

That’s something the PGA tour struggles with - is big head-to-head matchups. The world so badly wanted to see Tiger v. Phil go down to the wire in tournaments but it almost never happened.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95904 posts
Posted on 2/10/24 at 12:46 pm to
So it would have been better if the Tour diluted the hell out of its field and product in order to have tiger vs Phil at the top together more often?
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
65066 posts
Posted on 2/10/24 at 12:46 pm to
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That’s something the PGA tour struggles with - is big head-to-head matchups.

Right because they want the guys with the lowest scores to compete down the stretch, not artificially manufacture matchups
Posted by LG2BAMA
Texas
Member since Dec 2015
1180 posts
Posted on 2/10/24 at 12:59 pm to
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Tell me ANY LIV event that has the same atmosphere as the this course in phoenix or Augusta or sawgrass… just to name a few… you can’t.


I don’t think the pga tour has any events like Augusta either
Posted by theone
LSU
Member since Nov 2005
1831 posts
Posted on 2/10/24 at 1:31 pm to
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not artificially manufacture matchups


What?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95904 posts
Posted on 2/10/24 at 1:54 pm to
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What?
watering down the field after the top 20 is manufacturing the big names to the top.
Posted by NaturalBeam
Member since Sep 2007
14524 posts
Posted on 2/10/24 at 2:28 pm to
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Right because they want the guys with the lowest scores to compete down the stretch, not artificially manufacture matchups
People wanted to see Tiger v. Phil, it wouldn’t have mattered whether it was a field of 54 or a field of 120.
Posted by NaturalBeam
Member since Sep 2007
14524 posts
Posted on 2/10/24 at 2:30 pm to
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So it would have been better if the Tour diluted the hell out of its field and product in order to have tiger vs Phil at the top together more often?
Yes, that would’ve been great actually. They could’ve played a dozen events a year with 40-50 guys and gotten big matchups like that.

It’s a shame we got to see it happen like once in our lifetime.
Posted by catfish 62
Atlanta
Member since Mar 2010
4914 posts
Posted on 2/10/24 at 2:39 pm to
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The players are much more comfortable, and they are having fun.


I for one also feel much better that these guys can now be more comfortable and have fun while playing a game for millions of dollars regardless of performsnce!
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95904 posts
Posted on 2/10/24 at 2:45 pm to
I mean you are essentially rooting for something like “the match”. That proved to not be very exciting and not many have watched
Posted by NaturalBeam
Member since Sep 2007
14524 posts
Posted on 2/10/24 at 2:49 pm to
No, I’m advocating for a stacked leaderboard in a tournament. 54 competitors is enough for me. If I see DJ, Rahm, and Koepka at the top of a leaderboard, that’s interesting to me. I don’t first look to see if the field has 54 or 120 players (~60 by the weekend).
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70932 posts
Posted on 2/10/24 at 3:05 pm to
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What I really like about LIV is the relaxed atmosphere, and the casual dress code.


I bet you’d feel differently about, say, the NBA….
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
65066 posts
Posted on 2/10/24 at 5:53 pm to
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They could’ve played a dozen events a year with 40-50 guys and gotten big matchups like that.

How do the next big golfers become the next big golfers if you dilute the field to only include the best golfers right now? You don’t grow the sport for the next generation only caring about watching the current generation play one another because, eventually, they get old
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