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re: Can Trump really win?
Posted on 2/1/24 at 9:20 am to braves21
Posted on 2/1/24 at 9:20 am to braves21
No. He won in 2016 because the democrats underestimated the hate for Clinton. Even then it was a narrow victory. Now, justly and unjustly, Trump garners more hate than she did. He is far too polarizing and the fervor for him won't be as strong as it was in 2016. Toss in the media opposition from every platform and the barrage of legal attacks and there is no way.
Accept that between 2024 and 2028 the Supreme Court will be lost along with any semblance of a constraint on leftist lunacy in government policy.
Accept that between 2024 and 2028 the Supreme Court will be lost along with any semblance of a constraint on leftist lunacy in government policy.
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Posted on 2/1/24 at 9:22 am to braves21
Looking outside this echo chamber for a minute… The best thing for Biden is Trump.
He’s a known quantity, entangled in criminal cases, with a base that hasn’t grown. His last year as president was an unmitigated disaster.
Just get out the vote and it’ll be a wipeout worse than 2020.
He’s a known quantity, entangled in criminal cases, with a base that hasn’t grown. His last year as president was an unmitigated disaster.
Just get out the vote and it’ll be a wipeout worse than 2020.
Posted on 2/1/24 at 9:23 am to braves21
No he cannot. We all know people who just hate him and cannot see the great things he did as President. They will come out in droves to vote against him. It really sucks .
Posted on 2/1/24 at 9:23 am to braves21
Winning is one thing, taking office is another
Posted on 2/1/24 at 9:24 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Looks like hes wasting the opportunity
Pretty amazing considering one of his main campaign points in ‘16 was the wall. Wonder what’s going on.
Posted on 2/1/24 at 9:26 am to TejasHorn
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Looking outside this echo chamber for a minute… The best thing for Biden is Trump.
He’s a known quantity, entangled in criminal cases, with a base that hasn’t grown. His last year as president was an unmitigated disaster.
Just get out the vote and it’ll be a wipeout worse than 2020.
While you make valid points, you have to counter Trump's background with Biden's. Biden now has 4 years for people to judge him on, and his approval is a lot lower than Trump's ever was this far into his Presidency. In 2020, people expected 2012 Biden. They expected the witty, sarcastic elder statesman; and instead got a guy who falls off bikes and can't put a simple sentence together.
For as polarizing as Trump is, we can't underestimate the disappointment of Biden and the effect it has on voters as well.
Posted on 2/1/24 at 9:29 am to Jake88
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Even then it was a narrow victory.
Some folks have repeated "Trump won. Bigly." so often it's become their reality. It was close in 2016, it was close in 2020. I think he can win against Biden but I have no idea if he will. I doubt anybody does.
Posted on 2/1/24 at 9:29 am to frogtown
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Against Biden, yes.
Already lost to him in convincing fashion. Trump had to thread the electoral college needle to beat Hillary who is just as disliked as Trump. Only opponent Trump can beat in 2024 would be Hillary and I'm not even sure he could beat her at this point. I don't know any sane person who lived through 2020 that could vote for Trump. He handed the keys to the federal government over to people like Fauci and Birx. No thanks.
Posted on 2/1/24 at 9:32 am to TejasHorn
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Looking outside this echo chamber for a minute… The best thing for Biden is Trump.
And the best thing for Trump is Biden.
Posted on 2/1/24 at 9:35 am to braves21
As much as I hate to think it, if Trump is convicted of a felony, he will not win. Swing state voters will not vote for him if he is convicted. Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania.
Posted on 2/1/24 at 9:35 am to braves21
He has won twice, with the second time having more votes than any president ever. It took the Dems stopping the count in 6 swing states, kicking out all observers, and stealing the election at 4 am in the morning to keep him out of office. Dems have no path to victory without cheating. Its the only way they retain power.
Wake up
Wake up
Posted on 2/1/24 at 9:36 am to braves21
Has anything been done to fix elections?
Posted on 2/1/24 at 9:38 am to SPT
Yes
Posted on 2/1/24 at 9:39 am to braves21
I rather doubt he will beat Biden, but he clearly can. You're talking about a few thousand votes, one way or the other, in a handful of states. And now Biden has a (mostly bad) record to run on, particularly his failures at the border. The wild card would be a credible third party candidate from No Labels. It's hard to say without knowing who the candidate would be, but I think that would tend to favor Trump.
Posted on 2/1/24 at 9:39 am to braves21
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He’s got more baggage than a hobo
Hobo's typically have very little baggage.
Posted on 2/1/24 at 9:40 am to ronricks
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He handed the keys to the federal government over to people like Fauci and Birx. No thanks.
You would have done the same thing. We all would have.
Fauci was hailed as the best Infectious disease expert in the World at the time.
Posted on 2/1/24 at 9:45 am to braves21
Yes and don't blame Trump or Trump supporters or even GOP voters, blame the Leftist Dems that are utterly unable to run anyone better in order to even make it a tough decision.
Posted on 2/1/24 at 9:46 am to braves21
Absolutely.
It's the economy stupid. It's the insane surge of illegal aliens and migrants soaking up social services, exploding crime. It's the world breaking out in war everywhere. It's Joe Biden allocating money to support proxy wars - money that should be used to ease the economic plight of 'American' families. It's the Mullahs in Iran laughing at America (aka Joe Biden) as they send their Houthi pals to attack our Tankers, driving up the price of fuel.
It's America coming to the realization that Washington needs a change in leadership and we need it NOW.
Sure,Donald Trump may be rough around the edges, but people were better off when he was President. We weren't funneling money to every hot spot in the world. I'm paying almost $ 3.00/gallon for gasoline under Potatus, and the price is going up. At one point during President Trump's time in office I paid $ 1.63/gallon.
Donald Trump gave us Peace and Prosperity. Joe Biden and the democrats gives us war and economic ruin, and males who identify as female, entering our daughters rest room. Donald Trump delivered. His record of accomplishments speak for themselves.
The baggage? Everyone knows this is the Cabal's desperate attempt to stop Donald Trump. The fact that you refer to their effort as Trump's 'baggage' says all we need to know about the effectiveness of that propaganda. Stop doubting and fight for him. Remember, once (and if) they get past him, they'll come after us.
Trump 2024 - We Need Him Now.
It's the economy stupid. It's the insane surge of illegal aliens and migrants soaking up social services, exploding crime. It's the world breaking out in war everywhere. It's Joe Biden allocating money to support proxy wars - money that should be used to ease the economic plight of 'American' families. It's the Mullahs in Iran laughing at America (aka Joe Biden) as they send their Houthi pals to attack our Tankers, driving up the price of fuel.
It's America coming to the realization that Washington needs a change in leadership and we need it NOW.
Sure,Donald Trump may be rough around the edges, but people were better off when he was President. We weren't funneling money to every hot spot in the world. I'm paying almost $ 3.00/gallon for gasoline under Potatus, and the price is going up. At one point during President Trump's time in office I paid $ 1.63/gallon.
Donald Trump gave us Peace and Prosperity. Joe Biden and the democrats gives us war and economic ruin, and males who identify as female, entering our daughters rest room. Donald Trump delivered. His record of accomplishments speak for themselves.
The baggage? Everyone knows this is the Cabal's desperate attempt to stop Donald Trump. The fact that you refer to their effort as Trump's 'baggage' says all we need to know about the effectiveness of that propaganda. Stop doubting and fight for him. Remember, once (and if) they get past him, they'll come after us.
Trump 2024 - We Need Him Now.
This post was edited on 2/1/24 at 9:58 am
Posted on 2/1/24 at 9:47 am to ChexMix
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Wake up
So primaries and polls aren’t rigged but general elections are? Except in 2016 right?
Just want to make sure I’m fully awake.
Posted on 2/1/24 at 9:48 am to Cajunese
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Biden now has 4 years for people to judge him on
Leftists don't care about this.
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They expected the witty, sarcastic elder statesman; and instead got a guy who falls off bikes and can't put a simple sentence together.
Leftists don't care about this either.
They're one or two election cycles away from permanent power. Why would they stop now? They hate Trump, and they hate his voters even more. They're out for blood.
This post was edited on 2/1/24 at 9:50 am
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