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Vaccinations for kids? Related to Autism?

Posted on 1/23/24 at 1:18 pm
Posted by Grassy1
Member since Oct 2009
6275 posts
Posted on 1/23/24 at 1:18 pm
First off, I'm too old to still have children, so this is not a question that I have to decide, but I think it's a topic for those of you having children to consider. Twenty-two years ago, I considered anyone who questioned children's vaccinations a quack, and therefore had my kid vaccinated.

I currently have a few friends with children with autism, and obviously it's a life-long issue for the child and the parents. One specifically tells me that his son showed no symptoms of autism prior to vaccinations.

As some of you probably know, Robert F. Kennedy Jr, is currently running for President of the US as an independent candidate. Aside from this "fame", he was a very successful environmental attorney who has no doubt done a world of good for local citizens versus corporate pollution. But he also has done much research into drug/vaccination testing.

In listening to interviews with him, he purports that vaccinations do not require the same FDA scrutiny of other drugs. (and the scrutiny to other drugs, especially for off label diagnosis is very porous)
His research (supposedly) points to the increase in vaccinations and the increase in autism.

One of his points is that the number of required vaccinations have increased, as have the number of autistic children. I don't know if this is true. He says "where were all these autistic children when we were kids?" As an older person, I kind of agree, but for all I know, they were in the "special ed" class, but more or less, I truly do not know.

IF this has any degree of truth to it, it seems criminal at the very least. A lot of us might argue that big pharma does much that should be considered criminal, using covid responses as an easy example.

Researching this topic is very difficult, as there is so much money involved, so there are tons of "articles" and "research" combatting his arguments.

I apologize for adding yet another issue for young parents to consider, but seems to at least weighing the advantages/possible life changing costs of vaccinations.


Posted by BilbeauTBaggins
probably stuck in traffic
Member since May 2021
4861 posts
Posted on 1/23/24 at 1:20 pm to
Vaccines don't cause autism.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
53425 posts
Posted on 1/23/24 at 1:20 pm to
Think about how many women used to smoke cigs when pregnant and how few autistic kids there were
Posted by BeachDude022
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Member since Dec 2006
34964 posts
Posted on 1/23/24 at 1:21 pm to
Genetics cause autism, not vaccines
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
72708 posts
Posted on 1/23/24 at 1:21 pm to
Thanks boomers
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
35710 posts
Posted on 1/23/24 at 1:22 pm to
Something is increasing Autism. Could be vaccines, could be the microplastics in literally everything we eat and drink, could be 5G.
Posted by Evil Little Thing
Member since Jul 2013
11303 posts
Posted on 1/23/24 at 1:22 pm to
There were a lot more undiagnosed people in the past. Unless you were basically nonverbal, you were considered quirky, not autistic. Now, an autism diagnosis covers a pretty broad range of symptoms/characteristics.

Vaccines are a correlation thing. They’re given largely before 2, which is when autism symptoms become more apparent. There are also more older men and women having babies, which increases odds.
This post was edited on 1/23/24 at 1:23 pm
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
43805 posts
Posted on 1/23/24 at 1:23 pm to
im in my 40's and I remember way more special needs kids, dwarfs, etc when i was younger.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72365 posts
Posted on 1/23/24 at 1:25 pm to
Vaccines? No.

Although the research is “spotty”, Scruffy would lean more towards the fluoridation of our water supply, if you wanted to pick a certain possible causative agent.

Fluoride really shouldn’t be in our water system in general though.
Posted by PrecedentedTimes
Member since Dec 2020
3128 posts
Posted on 1/23/24 at 1:25 pm to
In the past, people were just quirky and watched too much Toonami.

Now they’re labeled neurodivergent autists and socially stunted for life.
Posted by Dragula
Laguna Seca
Member since Jun 2020
5049 posts
Posted on 1/23/24 at 1:26 pm to
They should ban vaccinations
This post was edited on 1/23/24 at 1:42 pm
Posted by Shexter
Prairieville
Member since Feb 2014
14090 posts
Posted on 1/23/24 at 1:28 pm to

Are more kids getting autism, or are more kids being diagnosed?
Posted by IlikeyouBetty
Bossier City, LA
Member since Nov 2010
1266 posts
Posted on 1/23/24 at 1:30 pm to
My son is autistic and has never had a vaccine in his life. Not saying it can't contribute, but it can definitely happen without it. He is high functioning though, so maybe it would've been worse if vaccinated? I don't know.
Posted by scott8811
Ratchet City, LA
Member since Oct 2014
11457 posts
Posted on 1/23/24 at 1:36 pm to
BCBA here (basically a behavioral therapist who specialized in treating autism)


quote:

I currently have a few friends with children with autism, and obviously it's a life-long issue for the child and the parents. One specifically tells me that his son showed no symptoms of autism prior to vaccinations.



this is a common fallacy I see. Thing is you wouldn't developnetally notice a kid has ASD until the age where they've been vaccinated.

Research has shown neurological differences in the brains of people with ASD and neurotypicals... I'm sorry but I don't think a vaccine is going to morph your brain.

Also, while I do think prevalence is is on the rise so is our ability to correctly diagnose. There are a lot of people who didn't get the diagnosis of ASD back when that really should have

TLDR...vaccines don't cause autism
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
66133 posts
Posted on 1/23/24 at 1:37 pm to

I'd worry about artificial color, flavor and plastic leach consumption in children moreso than vaccines.
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
32735 posts
Posted on 1/23/24 at 1:40 pm to
Idk if vaccines cause any unknown side effects but they did have to alter them pretty early on because of the use of Mercury.

Idk if anyone truly knows what we're doing
Posted by sta4ever
The Pit
Member since Aug 2014
15518 posts
Posted on 1/23/24 at 1:43 pm to
What is true anymore
Posted by Baers Foot
Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns
Member since Dec 2011
3547 posts
Posted on 1/23/24 at 1:44 pm to
quote:

"where were all these autistic children when we were kids?"


Grew up and post on TD now.
Posted by Sheep
Neither here nor there
Member since Jun 2007
19561 posts
Posted on 1/23/24 at 1:47 pm to
quote:

As some of you probably know, Robert F. Kennedy Jr, is currently running for President of the US as an independent candidate.


If you're dumb enough to believe this, you're dumb enough to believe the rest of the nonsense you wrote.

Please keep your appendages and clothing away from garbage disposals and open flames.







Or maybe don't.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Member since Jan 2005
71754 posts
Posted on 1/23/24 at 1:48 pm to
Stick to Baywatch, Jenny.
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