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Posted on 1/19/24 at 2:12 pm to cbree88
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Hope you’re right. I’m considering a career selling insurance and investments with Northwestern Mutual
There are some people that make a very fine living doing that.
There are 100x more people for which that was an absolute disaster and set them even further back in life.
The ones I know who are successful, can sell ice to an eskimo, and worked 80-90 hour weeks for years to get started. It also helps to have a network going in that will buy the products.
Posted on 1/19/24 at 2:16 pm to OceanMan
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If that sounds too scary and live in SELA, call Carrie Lewis at Robert Half, Jennifer Cedro at Professional Recruiting, or Jim Schneider at personnel consulting.
OP, listen to this. All three of these individuals I have dealt with over the years, both as an employee and as a hiring manager. They are good people who will help you.
The jobs are out there.
But hear this... the first few years in public accounting (I don't know how much experience you have) are going to SUCK no mattere where you are. And these days industry doesn't really want to train inexerpienced people.
However, while the work will SUCK during busy season... you should at least feel valued, and plenty of places out here do still value employees.
Posted on 1/19/24 at 2:38 pm to cbree88
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Any of you married men with families ever quit your job without having another lined up?
That was the one steadfast rule my dad instilled in us when we were first working...you never quit a job without another one lined up.
Posted on 1/19/24 at 3:23 pm to cbree88
I would just stick it out through busy season and save as much as I can for the next few months. Even if you don't think it's working out, they'll probably be hesitant to can you during busy season. As you approach the end of busy season, start applying. You can make it a few months.
I don't know if your experience is corporate or not, but if you can go work for a client, it is usually a better life in 90% of cases. The firm life is only for a few of us degenerates.
I don't know if your experience is corporate or not, but if you can go work for a client, it is usually a better life in 90% of cases. The firm life is only for a few of us degenerates.
This post was edited on 1/19/24 at 3:24 pm
Posted on 1/19/24 at 4:05 pm to cbree88
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I have a good bit of money saved, but I don’t want to deplete my savings too too much.
The point of an emergency fund is for emergencies, say you get fired. No reason to create an emergency by quitting just because you feel miserable at your current job. If you quit you'll feel better for a brief moment until the stress of not having a safety net sets in.
I've been in your spot. Just work harder at finding a job and take some satisfaction that you're making small steps every day to get closer to your new job.
Posted on 1/19/24 at 4:23 pm to Goldrush25
There seems to be some confusion about my post. I’m not miserable because I’m working 50 hours a week. I’m fine with that. What is making me miserable is my supervisors and the lack of training and guidance they have given me. I’m not competent at my job because of that, and it has been really frustrating.
This post was edited on 1/19/24 at 4:24 pm
Posted on 1/19/24 at 5:22 pm to cbree88
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I’m not miserable because I’m working 50 hours a week. I’m fine with that.
Don’t mind the idiots, you made it clear your work schedule made it difficult to look elsewhere b
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I’m not competent at my job because of that, and it has been really frustrating.
How long have you been doing it?
CPA work is hard. It’s a lot of gray area to navigate. Not everyone is good at it, and that includes seniors managers and partners. It’s quite possible you are stuck with some of those. It’s also possible that you are in a crappy and toxic work culture, that’s not exclusive to CPA firms but it always sucks.
Hop to another firm. Give it six months. They will appreciate your help even if it doesn’t work out.
You do tax or audit work?
Posted on 1/19/24 at 5:25 pm to cbree88
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I’m absolutely miserable at my current job at a CPA firm, and I don’t think they’re going to keep me around much longer anyway. It’s just not working out. I have my CPA license, my MBA, and I have a notary commission, so I think I can get another job.
This you?
Posted on 1/19/24 at 5:38 pm to cbree88
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There seems to be some confusion about my post. I’m not miserable because I’m working 50 hours a week. I’m fine with that. What is making me miserable is my supervisors and the lack of training and guidance they have given me. I’m not competent at my job because of that, and it has been really frustrating.
Thanks for clarifying. A lot of people in our profession suck at mentoring. Usually it's because they are perpetually underwater themselves. Accounting jobs are usually plentiful but it can be pretty tough to find a place that has a culture that puts an emphasis on training.
I don't know if you do tax or audit but one potential strategy I've seen work is to go a client. The pace is better which usually means supervisors have more time to explain things. You're also generally working less and are under less pressure so it gives you more time to really learn concepts instead of worrying about billable hours. Remember, ultimately no one is going to care about your development as much as you so be prepared to invest time to study up. Just don't beat yourself up if it doesn't come to you right away. It can take time for concepts to digest.
Posted on 1/19/24 at 11:16 pm to cbree88
Seems like an unpopular opinion on this thread, but I think it depends on how miserable you are.
I’m married with a family. I quit a 6- figure job without having another one lined up. I was miserable and burnt out to the point of panic attacks. I drove Uber for a month or so until I found something else. I caught shite from everyone besides my wife and family. Not listening to everyone who told me to “tough it out despite being miserable” was the best career decision I ever made.
I’m married with a family. I quit a 6- figure job without having another one lined up. I was miserable and burnt out to the point of panic attacks. I drove Uber for a month or so until I found something else. I caught shite from everyone besides my wife and family. Not listening to everyone who told me to “tough it out despite being miserable” was the best career decision I ever made.
This post was edited on 1/19/24 at 11:19 pm
Posted on 1/19/24 at 11:35 pm to cbree88
Had a corporate job. Knew it wasn’t what I wanted for my career but scared to leave because we were trying to start a family.
Wife had a miscarriage. It was our 7th one. Was fed up with everything and decided to go do what I truly wanted to do instead of waiting for life to happen. Walked into my boss’ office and quit. Had some savings but it didn’t really give me a min Went to work studying, practicing, and started an entire new career and my own business from a scratch at age 39. 5 years later and it was without a doubt the best decision I ever made.
Wife had a miscarriage. It was our 7th one. Was fed up with everything and decided to go do what I truly wanted to do instead of waiting for life to happen. Walked into my boss’ office and quit. Had some savings but it didn’t really give me a min Went to work studying, practicing, and started an entire new career and my own business from a scratch at age 39. 5 years later and it was without a doubt the best decision I ever made.
Posted on 1/19/24 at 11:59 pm to cbree88
Get another job first. It’s scary you asked this here.
Posted on 1/20/24 at 1:33 am to cbree88
Wait is 50 hours a week a lot?
Posted on 1/20/24 at 1:49 am to LSU713Tiger
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Wait is 50 hours a week a lot?
Nope. Please refer to my previous posts in the thread. A lot of people are misunderstanding the message and they think I’m mad about working 50 hours a week.
I’m fine with working 50 hours a week or more if I’m actually able to do my job. The problem is that the people who hired me didn’t bother to train me on how to do my job, and now everything is turning into a shite storm now that it’s busy season. I’m not able to do my job well because of this, and so it’s creating a lot of problems and misery.
This post was edited on 1/20/24 at 1:50 am
Posted on 1/20/24 at 7:38 am to cbree88
No. I have always heard it is Easier to find a job when you have a job.
Posted on 1/20/24 at 8:23 am to cbree88
Yep
Posted on 1/20/24 at 8:30 am to BK Lounge
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No, America is doomed b/c of the mentality you have that working 50 hours a week is just baby shite or is just rookie numbers.. you are virtue signaling that “Real Americans”[tm] must work 60-80 hours per week or some bullshite .. You are the problem .
To be fair, if you get into public accounting then you know what you’re getting into hours wise this time of year.
Posted on 1/20/24 at 8:56 am to cbree88
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cbree88
Public Accounting pays the best but they will work you to the bone. If in BR, are you are EisnerAmper? Formerly known as P&N, I know they are desperate for CPAs as they have tried to poach me several times. That's if you don't want a pay cut
If you are in Tax, IRS is on a hiring spree still and can start as minimum as a GS-11 as a CPA, probably GS-12 with tax history, you can also negotiate your step level (step 1-10) of whatever GS grade they offer as a first time fed employee
If you are willing to take a temporary pay cut, the state has some good positions too
Posted on 1/20/24 at 9:55 am to cbree88
Dude you could get a job in 5 fcking seconds…
Message some old coworkers who have left, if youre at a CPA firm there’s probably dozens…get some recruiter numbers…or just call Robert Hath.
Recruiters would jizz to get your resume…
The hard part isn’t finding a new job, the hard part is finding one that you only need to work 49 hours at
They’re out there…ask the hiring manager about their personal life and hobbies. Or just ask straight up, however if you ask straight up it’s going to piss people a lot of people off for some reason.
Message some old coworkers who have left, if youre at a CPA firm there’s probably dozens…get some recruiter numbers…or just call Robert Hath.
Recruiters would jizz to get your resume…
The hard part isn’t finding a new job, the hard part is finding one that you only need to work 49 hours at
They’re out there…ask the hiring manager about their personal life and hobbies. Or just ask straight up, however if you ask straight up it’s going to piss people a lot of people off for some reason.
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