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re: Does this align with being pro-life? Louisiana refuses summer meal assistance for kids

Posted on 1/12/24 at 12:14 pm to
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 1/12/24 at 12:14 pm to
Liberals one day:

“The boomers ruined this country with their entitlement spending!! We are gonna fix this mess!!

Liberals next day:

“We wanted another entitlement!! Why won’t you let us have more entitlements???!! REEE!!!”
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
50579 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 12:15 pm to
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There's a vast gulf of difference between people willingly giving to others or charitable organizations versus the government forcibly taking money from taxpayers then putting that toward programs which do more to perpetuate poverty than resolve


If we support the government forcing women to give birth to every child conceived in the name of being pro-life, why don’t we support the government ensuring every child has food to eat during the summer?

That’s the conundrum.

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You still haven't explained why you are complaining about the State not offering food programs to these kids if you don't believe it's the government's responsibility.


I’m not complaining about anything. I guess an argument could be made that I’m complaining about people not helping their fellow humans in need.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
50579 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 12:18 pm to
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You said it was for kids who were on reduced lunch who didn't receive SNAP. Doesn't seem that way now does it.


That’s exactly what it seems like. If kids get free or reduced lunch, they are eligible for this. If a kid goes to a school with at least 25% of the student body eligible for free or reduced lunch due to their income levels, the whole student body becomes eligible for free or reduced lunch. Therefor the whole student body would be eligible for this.

We got $40 on an EBT card last summer to make up for missed school lunches.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57528 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 12:18 pm to
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If we support the government forcing women to give birth to every child conceived
Except for forcible rape, every conception is a choice. Its 2023. We figured out what causes pregnancy a long time ago. And have numerous ways to prevent it. You act as people just spontaneously get pregnant—like they catch the flu.

When the government forcibly rapes women—this will become an excellent point. But until them… nope.
This post was edited on 1/12/24 at 12:21 pm
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
50579 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 12:20 pm to
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I’m forced to every 15 or so days; so, yes.


Oh, you consider paying taxes to be your charity?

Is that what you plan on telling Jesus when you get to the gates and He asks you when you fed the hungry or clothed the naked? You’re going to tell Him you paid taxes?
This post was edited on 1/12/24 at 12:21 pm
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
22406 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 12:21 pm to
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The job of the government is to micro-manage mothers in the name of being “pro-life”


How is the government micromanaging them?
Posted by El Segundo Guy
SE OK
Member since Aug 2014
9698 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 12:21 pm to
School food programs are not even a blip because it's all USDA foodstuffs. If people have a problem with school food programs, the only way to combat it is through the USDA.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
50579 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 12:22 pm to
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Except for forcible rape, every conception is a choice. When the government forcibly rapes women—this will become an excellent point. But until them… nope.


The government isn’t forcing anyone to conceive a baby, it’s forcing women to deliver each baby. I thought that was clear.

The point still stands- the government is forcing women to deliver every single child conceived, but refuses to ensure these children have access to food year round.
This post was edited on 1/12/24 at 12:23 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263469 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 12:23 pm to
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He asks you when you fed the hungry or clothed the naked?


Jesus never said to take your neighbors money by force and give that to the hungry.

Collective compassion is worthless. You get no credit.

Use your money and your time, thats what Jesus wanted..
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56954 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 12:23 pm to
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I don’t have to imagine it. I feed my own kids


Yeah, but that’s not because you think there’s a duty as a mother to do that. You seem quite ok with other mothers choosing not to feed their kids.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263469 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 12:24 pm to
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the whole student body becomes eligible for free or reduced lunch.


So you want to subsidize wealthier kids lunches too.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
31665 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 12:24 pm to
Thou shall not kill.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
50579 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 12:24 pm to
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How is the government micromanaging them?


Forcing them to deliver every single baby conceived.

My friend recently gave birth to her son whose brain developed outside of his skull in utero.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263469 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 12:24 pm to
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You seem quite ok with other mothers choosing not to feed their kids.


Absolutely.

These poor kids will be institutionalized.
This post was edited on 1/12/24 at 12:25 pm
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
50579 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 12:25 pm to
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So you want to subsidize wealthier kids lunches too.


I didn’t create the eligibility criteria.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
22274 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 12:25 pm to
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I guess an argument could be made that I’m complaining about people not helping their fellow humans in need.




Nothing's stopping you.

And what you're actually complaining about is that the government isn't forcibly taking assets from one person to distribute them to another.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56954 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 12:27 pm to
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For the fourth time; The program is for kids who qualify for free or reduced lunch whose parents don’t get food stamps.


So?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263469 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 12:27 pm to
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And what you're actually complaining about is that the government isn't forcibly taking assets from one person to distribute them to another.


Yep. Government taking money from one person by force and giving it to another isnt compassion.

Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57528 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 12:28 pm to
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The government isn’t forcing anyone to conceive a baby, it’s forcing women to deliver each baby. I thought that was clear.
The difference is moot because conception is completely optional.

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The point still stands- the government is forcing women to deliver every single child conceived
Simple don’t get pregnant. It’s not complex. I don’t want to get fat. So I eat healthy. No different.
Posted by Lightning
Texas
Member since May 2014
2314 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 12:28 pm to
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If kids get free or reduced lunch, they are eligible for this. If a kid goes to a school with at least 25% of the student body eligible for free or reduced lunch due to their income levels, the whole student body becomes eligible for free or reduced lunch. Therefor the whole student body would be eligible for this.

We got $40 on an EBT card last summer to make up for missed school lunches.



So this program is for children in financially stable homes who happen to go to school with poor children to be given free meals all summer?

Why? Did the stress of spending a school year with poor children somehow cause the financially stable children to experience some summer hardship? Perhaps gave them an increased appetite?
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