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What changed political views and the animosity of parties so much in 2000?
Posted on 1/9/24 at 11:12 pm
Posted on 1/9/24 at 11:12 pm
Seems like the 90s were the last year of moderates controlling things and people were not so polarized. Bush vs. Gore seemed to be a swinging point, but post 9/11 Bush had the highest approval rating in American history (upper 80s% job approval). What was the fundamental change in your opinion?
Maybe it's just me...but I feel like around 2000 you went from the "things we don't say or act upon in polite society" to one side maintaining that view and the other side stirring the pot creating polarization on cultural issues.
Furthermore...it was 1996 where TN, AR, LA, and KY were all Democratic states and CO, VA, and NC were all safe Republican states.
Maybe it's just me...but I feel like around 2000 you went from the "things we don't say or act upon in polite society" to one side maintaining that view and the other side stirring the pot creating polarization on cultural issues.
Furthermore...it was 1996 where TN, AR, LA, and KY were all Democratic states and CO, VA, and NC were all safe Republican states.
This post was edited on 1/9/24 at 11:14 pm
Posted on 1/9/24 at 11:15 pm to rpg37
Internet & cell phones which gives more information to voters. You can’t lie to people and expect them to trust you when you find out they’re all corrupt.
Posted on 1/9/24 at 11:22 pm to rpg37
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This post was edited on 1/23/24 at 11:02 am
Posted on 1/9/24 at 11:27 pm to rpg37
The left has become radical.
Bill Clinton confided in Dick Morris during his first 4 years that it was becoming a struggle to keep the far left crazies under control in the Democratic Party.
Bill Clinton confided in Dick Morris during his first 4 years that it was becoming a struggle to keep the far left crazies under control in the Democratic Party.
Posted on 1/9/24 at 11:37 pm to rpg37
The woke left. They’ve continuously gotten more and more ridiculous and gone so far left the last 10 years with impunity. It’s almost like they just wanted to see how much they could get away with. On the right, if you go too far right, you get in trouble. You get cancelled, etc. And you sure as hell don’t control the narrative. There hasn’t been much of a consequence on the left to this point, but I think the Israel / Palestine thing of all things is changing the tides a bit. The Claudine Gay thing basically turned DEI on its head. That, and Elon owning X, along with guys like Joe Rogan and Bill Maher speaking up, those guys all being traditional Democrats but being called “far right nut jobs” by a LOT of folks on the left.
Posted on 1/9/24 at 11:40 pm to rpg37
Around 2000 huh? Like 2001?
Like 9/11/01?
Like 9/11/01?
Posted on 1/9/24 at 11:43 pm to rpg37
Bush was only popular because we were at war
Posted on 1/10/24 at 12:10 am to rpg37
quote:
What was the fundamental change
Obama destroyed everything and is still in the process of destroying by proxy
Posted on 1/10/24 at 12:18 am to rpg37
I am a staunch conservative but... Gore got screwed in 2000 and the left never forgot it. Clinton was the democrats version of Reagan. When his successor was screwed, that was it.
Ballot screw ups (mainly people voting for Pat Buchanan by accident) gave Bush the win. The left never forgot this.
The GOP didn't cheat but the Dems were screwed in 2000.
Not my president was born in 2000.
Ballot screw ups (mainly people voting for Pat Buchanan by accident) gave Bush the win. The left never forgot this.
The GOP didn't cheat but the Dems were screwed in 2000.
Not my president was born in 2000.
Posted on 1/10/24 at 12:26 am to rpg37
In 1994 the Repubs took control of congress. The first time since...Eisenhower I believe?
Republicans might have won a presidency now and then, but dems ALWAYS controlled the house. But now, Rs were real contenders. No more Ron Reagan, Tip O'Neal nonsense. Rs became the enemy.
You add in what Dems saw as an illegimate president in Bush and that's why the 2000s where the way they were.
But the other responders are also correct. Media changed. Academia changed (always liberal, but now metastasizing to dominate institutions as cultural marxism). And lot of other longterm trends coming to fruition as well.
Republicans might have won a presidency now and then, but dems ALWAYS controlled the house. But now, Rs were real contenders. No more Ron Reagan, Tip O'Neal nonsense. Rs became the enemy.
You add in what Dems saw as an illegimate president in Bush and that's why the 2000s where the way they were.
But the other responders are also correct. Media changed. Academia changed (always liberal, but now metastasizing to dominate institutions as cultural marxism). And lot of other longterm trends coming to fruition as well.
Posted on 1/10/24 at 1:08 am to rpg37
2008-12 is when it went sideways.
Posted on 1/10/24 at 1:30 am to rpg37
1994 when Newt and the Rs took over. Rush became a political heavyweight leading the opposition. Then the Bill and Monica scandal conflated politics, culture, and social norms and we were off and running.
Posted on 1/10/24 at 3:16 am to rpg37
Bush and Cheney really went overboard with national security and war. This fires up the radical left.
Obama comes on to the scene and everyone started partying up. You either did or didn't like him. Pick a side.
Then as a response to this and being an absolute leaderless shitshow the Republicans then nominate trump who focuses on driving that wedge further.
Then Democrats have no real answer outside of their own geriatric who says crazy shite so they put up Biden. To try and enjoy some of those Obama term member berries. He doesn't really fix anything cross party though so the divide continues maybe worsens a little but mostly everyone thinks what they think by now.
Fast forward to today both parties continue to fail american and put up terribly unpopular candidates yet have cemented themselves in so deep you can't really oppose them you must pick a side.
Obama comes on to the scene and everyone started partying up. You either did or didn't like him. Pick a side.
Then as a response to this and being an absolute leaderless shitshow the Republicans then nominate trump who focuses on driving that wedge further.
Then Democrats have no real answer outside of their own geriatric who says crazy shite so they put up Biden. To try and enjoy some of those Obama term member berries. He doesn't really fix anything cross party though so the divide continues maybe worsens a little but mostly everyone thinks what they think by now.
Fast forward to today both parties continue to fail american and put up terribly unpopular candidates yet have cemented themselves in so deep you can't really oppose them you must pick a side.
Posted on 1/10/24 at 5:47 am to rpg37
I think it was the Monica Lewinsky scandal combined with the 2000 Presidential Election results which did it. 9/11 kinda stopped the bleeding but the animosity between the parties was resurrected in the aftermath of the Iraq War during the 2004 Presidential Election. Since that time the hate has only been getting stronger between Republicans and Democrats.
Posted on 1/10/24 at 6:26 am to rpg37
People started believing whatever BS they find on the internet.
The human mind is very susceptible to conspiracies and “smarter than everyone” syndrome.
The human mind is very susceptible to conspiracies and “smarter than everyone” syndrome.
Posted on 1/10/24 at 6:29 am to rpg37
Marxist switched from economic to racial attacks. It used to be rich vs poor but the communist weren’t getting anywhere with that so they exploited the racial past of America . This pitted white vs black instead of rich vs poor but it’s still the same Marxist ideology of oppressed vs non-oppressed
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