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re: 2024 Formula 1 season Thread
Posted on 3/2/24 at 1:52 pm to Lsut81
Posted on 3/2/24 at 1:52 pm to Lsut81
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I’ve never liked Yuki… loose cannon with a little man complex.
A couple of years ago Marko commented that Yuki was not the typical polite Japanese driver, and I think Marko was criticized for stereotyping Japanese drivers. But I agreed with him, I like my Japanese drivers well-mannered as well. I'm part Japanese and I've been waiting for decades for Japan to produce a great driver on the international stage. I was a fan of Takuma Sato despite his wild ways (in both F1 and IndyCar) and I was happy to see him achieve the glory of two Indy 500 wins. I was also a fan of Kamui Kobayashi, whose F1 career ended sooner than it should have. However I was indifferent to Nakajima, who was very forgettable.
On a personal level I've never really liked Yuki for the obvious reason, his lack of emotional control. But last year I started to become pretty defensive about people's comments about him, because a lot of people seem to think that he's a terrible driver who is only in F1 because Honda has coerced Red Bull to keep him on. While Honda may be the reason Yuki made it to a second season, there's no evidence that Honda was the reason he was kept for a fourth season. I followed AlphaTauri very closely last year. Yuki earned a fourth season. His on-track performance has improved every year and he had a good year last year.
This issue has been compounded by delusional Danny Ric fans, who couldn't admit that Yuki beat Danny last year, and who believe Danny will easily dominate Yuki this year on his way to a Red Bull seat. So how did the first race go?
1. Yuki beat Danny in qualifying
2. Before the last pit stops, Yuki had around an 8-second gap on Danny. For some reason, three out of the four Red Bull drivers were put on soft tires late in the race, but Yuki was kept on hards. It seems like they knew the softs were good tires that would do well on a low fuel load, but perhaps kept Yuki on hards because they weren't sure. So it was only a team strategy decision that allowed Danny to catch up to Yuki.
3. Danny only finished ahead of Yuki because of team orders.
Like I said before the race, I don't think either driver is going to make it to Red Bull.
TBH, I've been rooting pretty hard for Yuki since last year largely because so many people have delusional takes on his actual performances over the last year, and I will continue to do so. My true rooting interest is in seeing Albon do well.
Posted on 3/2/24 at 2:03 pm to TouchedTheAxeIn82
Just got caught up. Checo had a great race. I hope Sainz beats Leclerc every week.
Max lapped everyone that didn’t score points
Max lapped everyone that didn’t score points
This post was edited on 3/2/24 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 3/2/24 at 2:46 pm to Boodis Man
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Would be nice if there was a way to make things more competitive. It’s boring watching one guy always run away with it
Indy car is for actual racing
F1 is for tech
Posted on 3/2/24 at 3:11 pm to 1999
quote:And all slotted in pretty much the order I would have expected.
Top 5 teams all in the points. All the garbage out.
1. Red Bull
2. Ferrari
3A. Mercedes
3B. McLaren
5. Aston
Though I bet the A/B shifts to #2 with Ferrari/Merc throughout the season
Posted on 3/2/24 at 3:37 pm to lsurulz1515
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lsurulz1515
quote:
1) Verstappen
2) LeClerc
3) Sainz
4) Perez
5) Russell
6) Norris
7) Checo
8) Alonso
9) Piastri
10) Ocon
lsurulz1515,
On page 42, you listed Perez twice and left out Hamilton, so you need to put Hamilton in place of one of the Perez entries.
iwyLSUiwy,
On page 50 you listed Leclerc twice, you just need to delete one of them.
This post was edited on 3/2/24 at 4:02 pm
Posted on 3/2/24 at 4:06 pm to Jor Jor The Dinosaur
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And all slotted in pretty much the order I would have expected.
1. Red Bull
2. Ferrari
3A. Mercedes
3B. McLaren
5. Aston
Barring reliability issues, or boning into other cars, it's going to be very hard for the other 5 teams to score more than one point at a time.
That they get for beating the inbred for tenth.
This post was edited on 3/2/24 at 4:08 pm
Posted on 3/2/24 at 4:45 pm to TouchedTheAxeIn82
I mean I get all of that, but Yuki's attitude has been an issue for years. He talks to his crew on the radio during races like a 14 year old who just learned to curse.
How he acted post race was way over the line. He needs to sit for a few weeks and pray Liam doesn't accumulate any points in his place.
How he acted post race was way over the line. He needs to sit for a few weeks and pray Liam doesn't accumulate any points in his place.
Posted on 3/2/24 at 4:47 pm to TouchedTheAxeIn82
OK I scraped all the data for the championship prediction contest. There are just two mistakes that need to be fixed, as described in my previous post.
There are 25 entrants.
Only one person, NfamousPanda, listed 21 drivers.* He added Liam Lawson to the mix. I was thinking about doing that myself, but ultimately did not.
Give me a couple of weeks to write some scripts to calculate the scores. I envision creating a transparent system where you can see how your score was calculated. We can even consider tweaking the scoring system after we see the numbers.
The scoring system will count each of your predictions. Your prediction for each team and driver will be compared to the actual position of that team/driver in the championship. The closer the prediction is, the higher the score for that team/driver. And then a different weighting factor will be applied to each prediction. Predictions at the top of the ranking will be worth more than at the bottom. You will then have 10 individual prediction scores that will be added up to a total score for constructors and 20 individual prediction scores that will be added up to a total score for drivers, and then the overall TD championship score.
*Regarding listing more than 20 drivers, if Lawson does not drive this season, the prediction for him will not be scored (and the natural penalty will be that the other predictions in the lower part of the championship will be less accurate), and if Lawson (or another reserve driver) does drive this season, only the top 20 driver predictions will be scored. This just means that if Lawson drives this season, for NfamousPanda, Lawson will be scored but Magnussen (his last place prediction) will not be scored.
There are 25 entrants.
Only one person, NfamousPanda, listed 21 drivers.* He added Liam Lawson to the mix. I was thinking about doing that myself, but ultimately did not.
Give me a couple of weeks to write some scripts to calculate the scores. I envision creating a transparent system where you can see how your score was calculated. We can even consider tweaking the scoring system after we see the numbers.
The scoring system will count each of your predictions. Your prediction for each team and driver will be compared to the actual position of that team/driver in the championship. The closer the prediction is, the higher the score for that team/driver. And then a different weighting factor will be applied to each prediction. Predictions at the top of the ranking will be worth more than at the bottom. You will then have 10 individual prediction scores that will be added up to a total score for constructors and 20 individual prediction scores that will be added up to a total score for drivers, and then the overall TD championship score.
*Regarding listing more than 20 drivers, if Lawson does not drive this season, the prediction for him will not be scored (and the natural penalty will be that the other predictions in the lower part of the championship will be less accurate), and if Lawson (or another reserve driver) does drive this season, only the top 20 driver predictions will be scored. This just means that if Lawson drives this season, for NfamousPanda, Lawson will be scored but Magnussen (his last place prediction) will not be scored.
Posted on 3/2/24 at 4:49 pm to TigerFanatic99
Yuki's cursing has been explained. He learned his English hanging around mechanics.
I find his chatter amusing. Riccardio had a chance to drive off into the sunset and he didn't. That's on him.
I find his chatter amusing. Riccardio had a chance to drive off into the sunset and he didn't. That's on him.
Posted on 3/2/24 at 4:50 pm to TouchedTheAxeIn82
Watching Ricardo fail to make it to Red Bull will be the highlight of the season. Horner may actually risk his job for it. It’s clear he has an emotional “one that got away” attachment to him.
Team Yuki.
Team Yuki.
Posted on 3/2/24 at 4:55 pm to blowmeauburn
Finally getting to watch. Of course Sargeant is off the track. Somebody at Williams needs to get on the phone and bring LaGOAT back
Posted on 3/2/24 at 5:06 pm to iwyLSUiwy
Hoping Sainz and LeClerc battle it out like this all season. Love it.
Also, this might overall be the ugliest livelry I’ve personally ever seen. Honestly, outside of the Ferrari, none of the cars look all that good. And even theirs don’t look as good as last year.
Also, this might overall be the ugliest livelry I’ve personally ever seen. Honestly, outside of the Ferrari, none of the cars look all that good. And even theirs don’t look as good as last year.
This post was edited on 3/2/24 at 5:21 pm
Posted on 3/2/24 at 5:14 pm to iwyLSUiwy
Honestly my biggest disappointment from today is that Horner didn't collect the constructors trophy himself just as a frick you to FIA and F1 who both are apparently now doing their own investigations after the leaks came out.
Posted on 3/2/24 at 5:39 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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Finally getting to watch. Of course Sargeant is off the track. Somebody at Williams needs to get on the phone and bring LaGOAT back
OK, since Yuki has next to no chance to get promoted to Red Bull, I have a deal that would make everyone happy. Red Bull and Williams agree to can Sargeant now and put Yuki in the Williams, and VCARB can bring Liam Lawson on board to battle Ricciardo for the Red Bull seat. Both teams would be improved, the fans would get a better show, and Red Bull would likely end up with a better Max/Liam pairing next year.
Posted on 3/2/24 at 5:45 pm to TouchedTheAxeIn82
Not good when the first race of the season is about the most boring race I've watched in 3 seasons.
Posted on 3/2/24 at 5:51 pm to TouchedTheAxeIn82
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TouchedTheAxeIn82
Thank you for taking on the leg work for this.
Posted on 3/2/24 at 6:08 pm to BottomlandBrew
touched...I appreciate the work you are doing here...
But when I am getting the 2024 Indy preview...should be a great year with great young drivers and new teams
But when I am getting the 2024 Indy preview...should be a great year with great young drivers and new teams
Posted on 3/2/24 at 6:09 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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Of course Sargeant is off the track.
He had a steering wheel failure that apparently impacted his brakes. He pitted to change the wheel.
Albon had some wheel issues as well.
Probably wishing they stuck with the dashboard now.
Posted on 3/2/24 at 6:22 pm to blueboy
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ESPN F1: Congrats to Max on the 2024 World Championship
Posted on 3/2/24 at 7:30 pm to TouchedTheAxeIn82
Perez needs to podium every race this year to keep his seat I think. I think next year he'll be replaced with either Saenz or Liam. I would say Liam would be the better choice, but he's really unproven.
Dump either Yuki or Danny and sign Liam to a long term contract and stick him in VCARB for now. Dump Perez and sign Saenz to partner with Max.
Play Saenz and Liam by ear. Liam needs to understand he's the long term plan for Max's blocker, but needs to prove himself first.
Dump either Yuki or Danny and sign Liam to a long term contract and stick him in VCARB for now. Dump Perez and sign Saenz to partner with Max.
Play Saenz and Liam by ear. Liam needs to understand he's the long term plan for Max's blocker, but needs to prove himself first.
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