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re: Madison Brooks case cell phone data now in defense’s hands
Posted on 1/12/24 at 8:38 am to lsupride87
Posted on 1/12/24 at 8:38 am to lsupride87
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They didn’t kill her though. They dropped her off. And she was so Intoxicated she stood in the middle of the street.
Technically, you’re right. They didn’t kill her.
Knowing how intoxicated she was, after raping her, they dropped her off in the middle of nowhere, in the freezing rain and just let her take her chances.
So legally, no…they didn’t kill her.
Morally speaking? All 4 need to be fricking horsewhipped until they bleed out. Preferably in the freezing rain.
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Posted on 1/12/24 at 8:38 am to Rick9Plus
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if these guys hadn’t offered her a ride and transported her to the place of her death, she wouldn’t have died.
I thought they dropped her off where she asked them to drop her off. Assuming that's true, anyone who gave her a ride home would have dropped her off in the same spot in the neighborhood.
The rape stuff, if the prosecution can prove it, is clearly a different discussion. I don't think anyone is hypothesizing a replacement ride also raping her for the purposes of this digression in the conversation, which is focused on the death aspect.
Posted on 1/12/24 at 8:38 am to Godfather1
Morally they are absolutely bankrupt human beings. And they should spend considerable time in jail for what they did
Posted on 1/12/24 at 8:45 am to SlowFlowPro
Maybe a lawyer can chime in but are there any legal precedents for picking her up and dropping her off how and where they did constituting reckless endangerment? Any similar cases?
Posted on 1/12/24 at 8:45 am to SlowFlowPro
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I thought they dropped her off where she asked them to drop her off. Assuming that's true, anyone who gave her a ride home would have dropped her off in the same spot in the neighborhood.
Is that on video, or is that taking the word of the defendants?
I don't think you can assume she ends up there no matter what, but we do know she ended up there after getting in the car with the defendants.
Posted on 1/12/24 at 8:50 am to lsupride87
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The rape and death are separate manners entirely
Are they?????
I don’t know, but if the girl was intoxicated and in no condition to care for herself after being violated, and she screams to be let out of the car; are the rapists responsible for what happened?
Posted on 1/12/24 at 8:54 am to SlowFlowPro
Are there laws about deaths happening in the course of committing a felony?
Maybe it varies by state, but I thought if someone dies during the commission of a felony, even if accidental, that those involved could be charged with murder.
Maybe it varies by state, but I thought if someone dies during the commission of a felony, even if accidental, that those involved could be charged with murder.
Posted on 1/12/24 at 8:55 am to Rick9Plus
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constituting reckless endangerment?
What is reckless endangerment? I don't think that crime exists in LA (for non-military personnel)
Posted on 1/12/24 at 8:55 am to Godfather1
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Knowing how intoxicated she was, after raping her, they dropped her off in the middle of nowhere, in the freezing rain and just let her take her chances.
I thought they dropped her off where she "thought" she lived (or her friend or something?)? And at some point she wanted to be let out of the car, no?
Admittedly, I haven't read anything about this case in a long time so my memory is a little hazy on the details.
I'm not saying these dudes aren't culpable for something, but stop acting like "they killed her," because they didn't.
Posted on 1/12/24 at 8:57 am to jchamil
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Is that on video, or is that taking the word of the defendants?
The rumors are this is on video, with a long time of her giving them bad directions and all of the co-defendants getting annoyed. Again, rumors, but the DA is trying for 1st degree rape (when 3rd degree rape is more appropriate) so there must be a major factual issue for the DA to try for some death-related charge.
This post was edited on 1/12/24 at 8:58 am
Posted on 1/12/24 at 8:58 am to doubleb
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but if the girl was intoxicated and in no condition to care for herself after being violated, and she screams to be let out of the car; are the rapists responsible for what happened?
Has anyone other than emotional message board/social media posters framed this incident in this manner?
Posted on 1/12/24 at 8:59 am to CocomoLSU
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I'm not saying these dudes aren't culpable for something, but stop acting like "they killed her," because they didn't.
Don’t worry, they’re not gonna be prosecuted for that.
On that score, it’s between them and their Maker.
Posted on 1/12/24 at 8:59 am to SlowFlowPro
The DA (and society) is lucky as hell the boys talked. Because without the actual interviews they wouldn’t have anything at all.
This post was edited on 1/12/24 at 9:00 am
Posted on 1/12/24 at 9:02 am to Bjorn Cyborg
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Are there laws about deaths happening in the course of committing a felony?
The problem is that the felonies were "over" and too much attenuation occurred.
Posted on 1/12/24 at 9:03 am to CocomoLSU
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I thought they dropped her off where she "thought" she lived (or her friend or something?)? And at some point she wanted to be let out of the car, no?
Yes. That isn't official (yet), but is the most accepted version of the facts.
Posted on 1/12/24 at 9:06 am to SlowFlowPro
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What is reckless endangerment? I don't think that crime exists in LA (for non-military personnel)
That’s why i’m asking.
Posted on 1/12/24 at 9:07 am to JasonDBlaha
You graduated in 2020 and live in the Woodlands? Dork
Posted on 1/12/24 at 9:47 am to Bjorn Cyborg
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Are there laws about deaths happening in the course of committing a felony?
Yeah it's called felony murder. The nexus between the underlying felony and her death may be an issue. If she'd died in the car from being raped, it would've certainly applied.
Posted on 1/12/24 at 10:08 am to Tortious
Yeah there was a lot of time and intervening factors and it would be a major stretch.
Posted on 1/12/24 at 10:10 am to lsupride87
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Because without the actual interviews they wouldn’t have anything at all.
besides her toxicology reports and the fact that they gang raped her on video?
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