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re: What’s the story on 2025 5* WR Caleb Cunningham out of MS?

Posted on 1/6/24 at 10:43 pm to
Posted by NewBeginnings
Member since Feb 2023
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Posted on 1/6/24 at 10:43 pm to
I’ve lived in MS for a long time and I still can’t explain it. Kids have no problem going to Alabama or Auburn if they are highly rated. I think it’s cultural in their mind. Alabama seems like a more successful Mississippi while Louisiana is a weird culture. They have this reverence (admiration) for Alabama and know they will never get to their success. But, LSU is seen as beatable and on the same level.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
43700 posts
Posted on 1/6/24 at 11:12 pm to
If we get on campus he will be a tiger
Posted by Le Tenia
Member since Feb 2015
4532 posts
Posted on 1/6/24 at 11:22 pm to
Lebby kept the WR coach which is the only holdover from Leach’s staff
Posted by landmanner
Louisiana
Member since May 2006
3203 posts
Posted on 1/6/24 at 11:23 pm to
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If we get on campus he will be a tiger


He's been to campus at least 4 times already.
Posted by bengalmd
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2021
4530 posts
Posted on 1/6/24 at 11:26 pm to
He came to 2 LSU games this season, but he is going to go to State. That’s where his heart has been from the beginning.
Posted by Gulf Coast Tiger
Ms Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2004
18680 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 6:44 am to
The classy bas a lot of LSU fans. Sadly the football isn’t that great
Posted by Sammobile
Hollywood South
Member since Jan 2009
22330 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 6:49 am to
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He came to 2 LSU games this season, but he is going to go to State. That’s where his heart has been from the beginning.
damn, can’t be mad at that. It’s similar to how Louisiana kids feel about staying in-state
Posted by SOL2
Dallas burbs
Member since Jan 2020
4806 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 7:33 am to
he lives too far north. Our area is southern ms
Posted by UnclePat76
McHenry County Illinois
Member since Sep 2004
2453 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 8:20 am to
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I’ve always wondered why MS isn’t more of a pipeline for LSU


20 years ago it was. LSU came in and filled their cart full. Now you have Alabama and a much stronger and organized Ole Miss.
Posted by LSUFreek
Greater New Orleans
Member since Jan 2007
14792 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 8:41 am to
I always thought it was the Stark Vegas bagmen or the Oxford banks that on-the-low-down kept the big fish in MS. So when NIL deals became a thing, I thought it'd be an equalizer & loosen up their stranglehold on LSU targets in MS. I guess not. Now, I'm thinking it's just big-fish-in-a-small-pond brainwashing.
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
31639 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 11:11 am to
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I’ve lived in MS for a long time and I still can’t explain it. Kids have no problem going to Alabama or Auburn if they are highly rated. I think it’s cultural in their mind. Alabama seems like a more successful Mississippi while Louisiana is a weird culture. They have this reverence (admiration) for Alabama and know they will never get to their success. But, LSU is seen as beatable and on the same level.



This. Having played ball in MS in 08-11, this was the mindset of some of our better players that signed or were recruited. It continue to be that way when I was a high school sports writer in the Hattiesburg area during 2014-2017. For some odd reason, Alabama was viewed almost in the same light as Ms State and Ole Miss, like it was an almost in-state school. Never ever understood why it was treated that way and why most guys wouldn’t even consider LSU or Tennessee or even Auburn. They’d only go there as last resorts.

But it’s also probably just a small town Mississippi mindset that infects the entire state and every culture. To most recruits, them making it to MS State or Ole Miss is MAKING it. Anything outside of the state, outside of Tuscaloosa, is seen as strange and weird. There’s just lots of loyalty and stupidity and a lack of motivation to want more than what Ole Miss and State can bring you. Don’t get me wrong, they produce a little bit to the NFL but it’s like every other recruit in any other state views college as a means to an end: getting to the NFL somehow. Meanwhile most MS recruits are just happy to have made it to Ole Miss, MS State or Alabama. It’s fricking sad
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
31639 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 11:16 am to
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Now, I'm thinking it's just big-fish-in-a-small-pond brainwashing.



Mostly this, yeah. A good chunk of high school coaches 100% preach it. I’m sure they’re not the only state to do it, but a lot of MS kids are fricking brainwashed by the small town culture of the state. Hell, most of them probably think Tuscaloosa is a big city

All these recruits are told:

1. Stay in state, you’ll be THE guy on campus. Be a big fish in a small pond.

2. They’re told that they’ll be at a disadvantage if they go to LSU or Alabama or Auburn and won’t get the same opportunities as in-state kids at those schools.

3. Or they’re scared of competition. I remember Markell Pack (played at Purvis) flipped from Florida State to Ole Miss late because the coaches (both Ole Miss and at Purvis) told him he’d eventually start at Ole Miss and he’d never start at FSU, no one would watch him play, etc. Don’t think he ever started at Ole Miss either and was a good high school player.
This post was edited on 1/7/24 at 11:22 am
Posted by mpwilging
Punta Gorda Isles, Florida
Member since Jan 2011
7011 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 11:18 am to
MS is still "slim pickings" when it comes to recruiting. A few here and there, so I like our presence in TX better when it comes to out-of-state...
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85138 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 11:28 am to
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Black culture in Mississippi prides itself on not being Louisiana.


I think it’s more of a family pride kind of thing. Being close to home matters a lot.
Posted by LouisianaSavage69
Member since Nov 2021
74 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 11:31 am to
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I’ve always wondered why MS isn’t more of a pipeline for LSU?


Agreed. Their kids are pretty dang loyal though, considering how bad the MS schools have been
Posted by Elsu32
Mississippi
Member since Sep 2013
292 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 1:46 pm to
Since Lebby was hired State has got out to a lead. That kid’s film is impressive. He’s double or triple covered almost every play.
This post was edited on 1/7/24 at 1:48 pm
Posted by Purple_People_Eater
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2020
83 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 3:06 pm to
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Black culture in Mississippi prides itself on not being Louisiana.


Black culture in Louisiana just prides itself on being from Louisiana.
Posted by tibebecolston
Member since Mar 2013
4147 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 3:28 pm to
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Mississippi kids are notoriously hard to pull out of the state.


I feel like they are more inclined to go to Bama, but we have had our share of good ones. They are tough to pull though, as compared to our success in Texas.
Posted by reddingoo
Athens, GA
Member since Feb 2020
124 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 9:02 pm to
Scroll down a tad to the #7 WR. Kaliq Lockett from Texas. We have more success from there, plus he's rocking an LSU hoodie in his pic. That has to mean something, right?
Posted by HattiesburgTiger5439
Hattiesburg ms
Member since Sep 2023
212 posts
Posted on 1/8/24 at 10:56 am to
Wont happen with Maddox. He wants GA. But i could see him at Ole Piss with his brother
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