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re: Unreleased footage of hurricane Katrina from New Orleans fire department documentary
Posted on 12/29/23 at 6:41 am to EastBankTiger
Posted on 12/29/23 at 6:41 am to EastBankTiger
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have relatives that live in Pearlington, MS. They were effectively cut off from civilization for 7-10 days.
I didn't see Pearlington and don't know what the average elevation was, but I suspect it's wasn't much. I think the eye of the storm went over Pearington, so I imagine it much have been virtually destroyed.
Posted on 12/29/23 at 8:12 am to Tasty Thrill
quote:Not nearly as many airboats here as you think. Couple that with access to the city was virtually nil until water receded.
I thought, "Lousiana has more airboats than they do people. The airboats will be out in full force performing rescues."
Then when we watched the news I saw very few people in boats out trying to help.
The big failure was at the City and State level prior to the storm - nearly 1000 school buses that were left in the city could have been used for evacuating. There were more than enough resources available prior to the storm to get nearly everyone out that had the means the lack of mobilization and execution by the Mayor and Governor is perhaps the biggest failure of the democratic party placed upon it's people other than LBJ and the gun grab that took place in the after math. People should have gone to prison over that.
Anyone that stayed in NOLA on their own free will chose to ignore the risks, which everyone well knew and chose to ignore - it happened in 1965(just no media coverage), 1915, 1893 1856 and it will happen again. It would have taken far less effort to get people out prior to the storm that it did after.
Perhaps the many false alarms lulled people to sleep but if you play games with mother nature long enough she will win.
Posted on 12/29/23 at 8:24 am to choupiquesushi
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it happened in 1965(just no media coverage),
The water was not near as bad in 1965.
Posted on 12/29/23 at 8:36 am to wadewilson
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That's not true at all
Yes it is absolutely true
Take away the broken levees and New Orleans comes out smelling like a rose
This post was edited on 12/29/23 at 8:37 am
Posted on 12/29/23 at 8:59 am to tgrbaitn08
There was a ton of damage not related to flooding in NOLA. Sure it wouldn’t have been as bad, but to say “smelling like a rose” is a stretch. All of the east would have flooded anyway, there were tons of collapsed buildings, roofs blown off, commercial structures destroyed.
Posted on 12/29/23 at 3:14 pm to tgrbaitn08
quote:lots of flooding due to pumps not being manned.
Yes it is absolutely true
Take away the broken levees and New Orleans comes out smelling like a rose
Posted on 12/29/23 at 7:47 pm to choupiquesushi
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lots of flooding due to pumps not being manned.
Did that happen in Orleans Parish as well as Jefferson?
JP pump operators evacuated to Washington Parish because our fearless leader and public basketcase, Aaron Broussard, was unwilling to "sentence them to death".
Just like his wearing of basketball shorts and no toupee for an interview on national news, where he spoke of having to carry a plastic bag to shite in, Aaron was prone to hyperbole. Before his complete meltdown.
Posted on 12/29/23 at 8:04 pm to choupiquesushi
quote:I doubt the pumps would have mattered once the leaves let go,,,,,I landed in a medical bel on Tulane parking garage at 0800 on the Tuesday morning and the streets were almost dry, by noon there was more than a foot of water.
lots of flooding due to pumps not being manned.
Posted on 12/29/23 at 8:16 pm to choupiquesushi
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lots of flooding due to pumps not being manned.
Would not have mattered at all in New Orleans.
But yes Metairie flooding mostly can be blamed on pumps not being on.
Posted on 12/29/23 at 8:19 pm to Boston911
Yeah, the priest at the church we lived by in Arabi said the water came up in an hour
But that was because of the levee break, lower St Bernard flooded because of the storm surge
But that was because of the levee break, lower St Bernard flooded because of the storm surge
Posted on 12/29/23 at 9:16 pm to LSUgusto
We did go down and brought plenty out to I10 but were run off by orleans sheriffs dept after 4-5 hours. Left our water 5 cases and a 120qt igloo full of ice with a medic stationed on I10.
Posted on 12/29/23 at 9:48 pm to White Roach
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Along with one of my cousins, probably in Nov or Dec, we took an ATV ride down what was left of the highway to look at the damage. We weren't in Long Beach because a National Guardsman in a Humvee was at the border between PC and Long Beach. He told us we couldn't cross. I asked if we should go back to the house. He said No, we could ride around PC all we wanted, but that we weren't allowed into Long Beach. He didn't know why, but we weren't allowed in Long Beach.
Yea the first few days, the only people that could get into LB were residents. Sadly, were were in that number. We evacuated to Hattiesburg to stay with my brother. Wasn't any safer there in hindsight. It was absolutely horrendous seeing the place you live in that condition. We lived about a mile off the beach in Long Beach, luckily north of the railroad tracks which acted as a levee. We still had 6 pine trees on our house though. Most of my best friends lived south of the tracks and lost everything. I can still remember finally making it down to St. Thomas on the beach with 4 or 5 of my friends and being absolutely shocked at what we were seeing. We had lived there for most of our lives and were completely lost. There were no landmarks, no houses, no nothing. I've been unable to find the exact report the last few years but it was documented that Long Beach had the highest surge at 36'. I've seen a few that say 30'+ but the one I saw was a map with the levels laid out across the coast. There are still slabs along the beach and just off that have never been rebuilt.
Someone else mentioned the silence and that still stands out in my mind. We were completely cut off from civilization for almost 2 weeks. It was pitch black and dead silent at night. Silence like you cant imagine.
My grandpa and cousin loaded up a 55 gallon drum of gas in the back of his GMC in Opelousas, grabbed his 1911, .357, and sweet 16 and headed east on I-10. National Guard stopped them at the LA/MS border and asked what they thought they were doing. My grandpa explained to them where we lived and what he was bringing us. Guards warned them that they were going to be a target once they got into the state and my grandpa showed him the 2 pistols and said "I kinda figured as much." Guard wished them luck and let them through.
We had no idea they were coming and when they rolled down our street and into our driveway, all of our neighbors were outside (cleaning up) just starring Ill never forget it. We were like "What in the actual frick are you doing!?"
WILD times
This post was edited on 12/29/23 at 9:49 pm
Posted on 12/29/23 at 9:48 pm to choupiquesushi
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and it will happen again
Closing mr. go and the surge barriers are a fortress. The levee system was a joke pre-Katrina.
Posted on 12/30/23 at 11:31 am to White Roach
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quote:Does she live on Scenic? Yes.
I think my brother was her neighbor. They stayed but got out right before the storm surge absolutely destroyed the house. He also destroyed a truck trying to get to a neighbor’s house that was set further back.
Posted on 12/30/23 at 11:42 am to deltaland
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Louisiana wouldn’t have gotten much damage at all had the levee not broke
Washington and St. Tammany Parish would disagree.
Posted on 12/30/23 at 12:00 pm to MSTiger33
Is/was he a surgeon? They rebuilt about 50 yards back. Maybe a guy who owned a local specialty auto shop.
It was crazy how many people stayed. Most were older and longtime residents. I think they felt a false sense of security because their neighborhood didn't flood in Camille.
The strength of the water is very underestimated. My Aunt's house is probably set back close to 200' from Scenic. Not only did we find sections of boardwalk behind the house, but large chunks of asphalt from (presumably) Scenic Dr were scattered in the front yard and UNDER the house. Try dragging a ~3' x 3' x 2" slab of asphalt on your hands and knees from under a house. Crazy times!
I found a nice, largely intact fish cleaning station washed back to almost to 2nd St. Never could repurpose it. Too much other shite going on.
It was crazy how many people stayed. Most were older and longtime residents. I think they felt a false sense of security because their neighborhood didn't flood in Camille.
The strength of the water is very underestimated. My Aunt's house is probably set back close to 200' from Scenic. Not only did we find sections of boardwalk behind the house, but large chunks of asphalt from (presumably) Scenic Dr were scattered in the front yard and UNDER the house. Try dragging a ~3' x 3' x 2" slab of asphalt on your hands and knees from under a house. Crazy times!
I found a nice, largely intact fish cleaning station washed back to almost to 2nd St. Never could repurpose it. Too much other shite going on.
Posted on 12/30/23 at 12:04 pm to Tasty Thrill
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Too bad "Chocolate" Nagin sat on his racist arse before it hit.
What would have you done differently if you were the mayor before it hit?
Posted on 12/30/23 at 12:05 pm to Tasty Thrill
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I thought, "Lousiana has more airboats than they do people. The airboats will be out in full force performing rescues."
You thought wrong
Posted on 12/30/23 at 12:09 pm to choupiquesushi
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lots of flooding due to pumps not being manned.
Wrong again
Maybe you’re thinking of Jefferson Parish
Posted on 12/30/23 at 12:38 pm to choupiquesushi
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The big failure was at the City and State level prior to the storm - nearly 1000 school buses that were left in the city could have been used for evacuating. There were more than enough resources available prior to the storm to get nearly everyone out that had the means the lack of mobilization and execution by the Mayor and Governor is perhaps the biggest failure of the democratic party placed upon it's people other than LBJ and the gun grab that took place in the after math. People should have gone to prison over that.
Why are you so ignorant?
The city didnt have the resources to execute a massive evacuation plan to utilize the school buses..
First of all they only had 24 hours notice once the storm changed its track.....
Secondly....who was going to drive the buses?
You think the city or state could get 1000 bus drivers with Class D license's to NOLA and fire up these buses that had been sitting all summer since May?
Service, oil change, check the tires, etc. in a matter of a few hours?
And what about insurance???
Tell me what insurance company was going to cover 1000 school buses with 100 people on each bus?
Use your fricking head
This post was edited on 12/30/23 at 12:49 pm
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