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Posted on 12/28/23 at 1:23 pm to Swamp Angel
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I'm still a tad pissed that the Tullis-Toledano Manor in Biloxi was wiped out by a casino that broke loose in Katrina and settled on top of it. I loved that old place.
My parents lived two blocks behind Tullis (about 200 yards, give or take, through the neighborhood). One of the big 8ft tall green shutters washed up in the yard. We used it as a wheelbarrow ramp into the house when we started mucking it out. We also had a couple of the Grand’s big stucco columns in the yard, too.
This post was edited on 12/28/23 at 1:41 pm
Posted on 12/28/23 at 1:36 pm to Byrdybyrd05
Watching these elderly people stranded makes me want to cry.
Posted on 12/28/23 at 1:38 pm to cbdman
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Good video. Pretty impressive how the firefighters kept their cool and went about the job. I know the first firefighter on the jet ski talking about 150 stranded eople became a captain
The young man filming also became a captain.
Posted on 12/28/23 at 5:23 pm to White Roach
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Everything else around it was completely slabbed. I drove up to it to look around. It had about 4 or 6 ~4" metal poles bolted to what apparently was the front porch. The wood cladding was gone and the poles bent to the slab. Each had 4 pretty substantial bolts thru a baseplate and into the slab. About half of the bolts were sheared off and the other half bent nearly 90°.
My understanding having spoken with some builders and structural engineers is that houses on wooden stilts are fine until the water and wave action hits a certain height after which they simply cannot handle the torque associated with strong surge.
To survive a storm like that a house has to have sufficient elevation and be on concrete pilings that are well set in the sand.
In addition the house will fail if the windows blow out or the roof goes as is common with anything not built to the S FL storm codes now required. Even a well built new home isn’t going to handle a surge past the height of the pilings.
Realistically nothing we can build is going to survive a 30’ surge and Cat 3/4 wind on the water down there due to the storm surge potential of the area, it’s just not realistic due to cost and how it would make the house look from an aesthetic standpoint.
This post was edited on 12/28/23 at 8:31 pm
Posted on 12/28/23 at 6:03 pm to Byrdybyrd05
I grew up two blocks from the building they staged in. I have an aunt who worked in the BellSouth building. She still lives on Michoud.
Posted on 12/28/23 at 6:07 pm to Byrdybyrd05
Too bad "Chocolate" Nagin sat on his racist arse before it hit.
Posted on 12/28/23 at 6:14 pm to Tasty Thrill
When they were showing the devastation and people trapped on the roofs of houses and such.
I thought, "Lousiana has more airboats than they do people. The airboats will be out in full force performing rescues."
Then when we watched the news I saw very few people in boats out trying to help.
Did they just not show them? Are there not as many "swamp boats" as I thought? Where were all the shallow water boats? Did LEO forbid private citizens from assisting?
I thought, "Lousiana has more airboats than they do people. The airboats will be out in full force performing rescues."
Then when we watched the news I saw very few people in boats out trying to help.
Did they just not show them? Are there not as many "swamp boats" as I thought? Where were all the shallow water boats? Did LEO forbid private citizens from assisting?
Posted on 12/28/23 at 6:15 pm to udtiger
I remember the weather channel had a shot of just one guy just wandering along the beach in miss. I always wonder what was going through his mind as he looked at all the destruction as he walked.
Posted on 12/28/23 at 6:15 pm to Tasty Thrill
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Did they just not show them? Are there not as many "swamp boats" as I thought?
Meh.
Most of the swamp boats in the state are west of the Nola.
Posted on 12/28/23 at 7:26 pm to Tasty Thrill
quote:Yes. Not that many local boat owners were capable of responding at the time, but the entire area was locked down, and difficult to get around or into.
Did LEO forbid private citizens from assisting?
The populist uprising to let local boat owners rescue people resulted in the Cajun Navy being assembled in Lafayette.
Dem coonasses was goin' in.
Posted on 12/28/23 at 7:31 pm to tigersownall
quote:don’t read about St. Rita’s Nursing Home
Watching these elderly people stranded makes me want to cry
Posted on 12/28/23 at 7:40 pm to GreenRockTiger
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don’t read about St. Rita’s Nursing Home
Yeah that was a rough one to hear about
Posted on 12/28/23 at 10:45 pm to PGAOLDBawNeVaBroke
Posted on 12/28/23 at 10:52 pm to JimJack
Now that’s a Merry Christmas!
Posted on 12/28/23 at 11:03 pm to Tasty Thrill
A neighbor and I attempted to help rescue folks maybe 5 days post land-fall. We didn’t get past Destrehan before the national guard turned us around. The boat was loaded with only a case of water and a pistol. Looking back, with all the chaos unfolding, it may have been for the best.
Posted on 12/29/23 at 12:52 am to Juan Betanzos
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My grandparents lived at the corner of Scenic / Courtney. Built circa 1855. Their front door was 29 ft ASL. There was a 6’ watermark in what remained of the house. 3/4 of the 1st floor was washed out. They miraculously survived, staying upstairs When we arrived Monday, having to cut our way through downed trees on Menge & 2nd Street, thier pitch was leaning 30 degrees downward - with no 1st floor to support the 2nd floor. Miracle!
Last name start with a "G"? Details very familiar. Those people were "lucky" to have survived.
The people I'm thinking of were on the 2nd floor and couldn't get down because the front of the house was largely destroyed. I can't remember how many days they were stuck in the house.
I'm guessing they stayed because their home hadn't flooded in Camille. One of their neighbors a few (4?) houses to the west stayed and lived to regret the choice. (Didn't flood for Camille, we'll be fine.) They were about 80ish. The wife injured her leg during the flooding and developed a Vibrio infection. The were at the house 5 to 7 days later when their daughter got in to get them out. The mother's leg was obviously fricked up. The daughter insisted they leave. The hard headed old man refused. The daughter left his arse and took the mom back to the Birmingham area and got her in a hospital. Five weeks later (I think...) she got out the hospital, barely avoiding having her leg amputated.
I remember him telling me that "if I knew the house was going to flood, I never would have stayed." I remember thinking "No shite."
Posted on 12/29/23 at 12:53 am to MSTiger33
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Does she live on Scenic?
Yes.
Posted on 12/29/23 at 5:55 am to White Roach
I have relatives that live in Pearlington, MS. They were effectively cut off from civilization for 7-10 days.
Posted on 12/29/23 at 6:07 am to Tasty Thrill
We had the flatboat ready to go and my dad called me back inside as the news showed people getting held at gun point and their boat stolen then left on rooftops. We un hitched boat and went back to replacing shingles
My aunt was working at waveland police dept at the time. Had to swim out to safety
My aunt was working at waveland police dept at the time. Had to swim out to safety
This post was edited on 12/29/23 at 6:09 am
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