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Unreleased footage of hurricane Katrina from New Orleans fire department documentary

Posted on 12/27/23 at 11:36 pm
Posted by Byrdybyrd05
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 12/27/23 at 11:36 pm
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Unreleased video from the New Orleans fire department from the beginning to the days after of Katrina. I’m always intrigued by new videos from Katrina that I haven’t seen yet.
Posted by PGAOLDBawNeVaBroke
Member since Dec 2023
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Posted on 12/28/23 at 12:00 am to
Not watching unless new footage of Lootie available
Posted by mudshuvl05
Member since Nov 2023
590 posts
Posted on 12/28/23 at 12:38 am to
that's a good video. like you said, looks brand new. I've never seen it.

Mississippi isn't often talked about regarding Katrina, but we had kin folk down there and sent family to help. it was like nothing ever seen. it was bedlam personified.
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
9451 posts
Posted on 12/28/23 at 5:51 am to
Much of the flooding in NO was from rising water, not from rushing, moving water. In NO, much of the flooding occurred over several days, partially receded, then reflooded during Rita.
In MS it was wind and waves causing the bulk of the destruction. The property at my Aunt's house in Pass Christian was about 22' or 23' above sea level. The house was on piers that were about 30". They still got 4' to 5' of floodwater in the house, not to mention sections of destroyed boardwalk acting as battering rams driven by the wind and waves. Her house survived, but had major damage. It was 22 months before they were able to move back in

Many houses in lower areas, such as Long Beach, were completely slabbed. The remnants of those houses were washed inland about a quarter to half mile in a massive pile of rubble. Along 90 in those lower areas almost every structure was gone.
Posted by MSTiger33
Member since Oct 2007
20367 posts
Posted on 12/28/23 at 6:00 am to
Spot on. My brother lives in the Pass and it was like someone set a bomb off in his house. The house was a beautiful historic home over 100 years old that survived multiple storms before Katrina.
Posted by SagesSon
Member since Apr 2019
753 posts
Posted on 12/28/23 at 6:09 am to
Some of my family and I went to Biloxi a couple of months after Katrina hit MS. Eerie! No creatures or sounds. NO flies, butterflies, mosquitos, birds, squirrels; heck no crickets.

NOLA got washed out from the floods and was a disaster. MS coast was devastated. Cousin lived miles inland [still low] in MS and had feet of water inside his house.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
11143 posts
Posted on 12/28/23 at 6:31 am to
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In MS it was wind and waves causing the bulk of the destruction. The property at my Aunt's house in Pass Christian was about 22' or 23' above sea level. The house was on piers that were about 30". They still got 4' to 5' of floodwater in the house,

That area got hit as hard as any ever has by a hurricane, you just didn’t hear about it because of the societal failures in NO that were more popular to discuss in the media.
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
9451 posts
Posted on 12/28/23 at 6:44 am to
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Cousin lived miles inland [still low] in MS and had feet of water inside his house.


I was looking at a FEMA storm surge map about 6 months after the storm (I think. It's all kind of a blur...), but it was the first map released. According to their estimates, the back bay of Bay St Louis had the highest storm surge. The water pushed into the bay and drove up those creeks and rivers massively. I can't remember the estimate exactly, but it was over 30'. We had a carpenter friend who lived near one of those creeks/sloughs on the east end of the bay. He stayed for the storm. The floor of his raised house was 18' above sea level. They went out of a window when the water was rapidly rising. Tried to get on the roof, but were unable. He and his son washed into some trees and were able to hold on. He said he watched the water rise over the roof of his house, so he was happy to be in a tree instead of his attic.

We estimated about 29' to 30' feet at my Aunt's based on water marks on interior doors and walls (covered in sea grass). FEMA's estimate for that section of PC was 27' or 28'. So they weren't far off with their mapping estimates, at least in our area.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
11143 posts
Posted on 12/28/23 at 6:51 am to
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We had a carpenter friend who lived near one of those creeks/sloughs on the east end of the bay. He stayed for the storm. The floor of his raised house was 18' above sea level. They went out of a window when the water was rapidly rising. Tried to get on the roof, but were unable. He and his son washed into some trees and were able to hold on. He said he watched the water rise over the roof of his house, so he was happy to be in a tree instead of his attic.

If there is any takeaway from this thread it’s that if you live in a coastal zone, particularly if you have children or the elderly with you, there is absolutely positively no reason to stick around for a major (cat3 or above) hurricane.

Your actions will at best cause a major inconvenience to those you love and those who will be responding to the storm.

More likely it will cause a traumatic life event they will never forget and which might lead to PTSD.

At worst you will get people you love killed.

Just pack your stuff and go.
This post was edited on 12/28/23 at 6:52 am
Posted by TigrrrDad
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 12/28/23 at 6:53 am to
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The property at my Aunt's house in Pass Christian was about 22' or 23' above sea level. The house was on piers that were about 30". They still got 4' to 5' of floodwater in the house


My dad lives on the Jourdan River and was just finishing up a new house, 7 miles inland from the coast. He built around 24 feet above the normal water level, and still got a couple feet of water. Most houses around him (including his older house) which were built on the usual 8-10 foot stilts had water onto the roof.
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
9451 posts
Posted on 12/28/23 at 7:13 am to
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The house was a beautiful historic home over 100 years old that survived multiple storms before Katrina.


My Aunt's house was built in 1877. There was a large renovation about 1985 which, in my opinion, saved the whole structure. Wings were added to both sides of the original structure that had positive pier to beam connections and large brick patio was built behind the original house, including a CMU block chain wall other south side.
In 1877 apparently they used brick piers with spread footing sitting directly on the sand. The pier/beam connection was gravity. Many of the original piers were undermined and settled below the house. Others were destroyed. On the 2nd floor the floor of one bedroom sagged about 2" - 3". The walls were held up by the "new" gabled roof. If that renovation hadn't taken place I'm convinced the whole house would have collapsed and just become a lumber pile washed up along 2nd St or the railroad tracks.

Her next door neighbors stayed because "it didn't flood in Camille". Several other neighbors stayed as well. All old people who didn't want the hassle of evacuating.
Posted by Swamp Angel
Georgia
Member since Jul 2004
7249 posts
Posted on 12/28/23 at 7:16 am to
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Along 90 in those lower areas almost every structure was gone.


I'm still a tad pissed that the Tullis-Toledano Manor in Biloxi was wiped out by a casino that broke loose in Katrina and settled on top of it. I loved that old place.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43077 posts
Posted on 12/28/23 at 7:17 am to
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In MS it was wind and waves causing the bulk of the destruction. The property at my Aunt's house in Pass Christian was about 22' or 23' above sea level. The house was on piers that were about 30". They still got 4' to 5' of floodwater in the house
My relative lived in the first block off the beach in Bay St Louis (or might've been Pass Christian can't remember). The entire house was gone with the only thing remaining was a tiled shower wall. It was perpendicular to the beach so I guess after everything else gave way, it was free standing and able to withstand. Craziest part is a bar of soap was still in the little cubby hole/ soap shelf thingy in the wall.
Posted by Armymann50
Playing with my
Member since Sep 2011
17040 posts
Posted on 12/28/23 at 7:18 am to
Took them a week to rescue the New Oleans fire dept fricking crazy shite.
This post was edited on 12/28/23 at 7:26 am
Posted by Sheep
Neither here nor there
Member since Jun 2007
19488 posts
Posted on 12/28/23 at 7:24 am to
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Mississippi isn't often talked about regarding Katrina, but we had kin folk down there and sent family to help. it was like nothing ever seen. it was bedlam personified.


I delivered a box truck full of supplies to what was left of the Waveland FD in the aftermath. Beat FEMA there by 2-3 days. That drive from the interstate to the fire department was.... something.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
11143 posts
Posted on 12/28/23 at 7:47 am to
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I delivered a box truck full of supplies to what was left of the Waveland FD in the aftermath. Beat FEMA there by 2-3 days. That drive from the interstate to the fire department was.... something.

Surprised they let you in, they had national guard with full battle gear sending people back starting on I59 in Hattiesburg.

Think a big part of the issue had to do with a lack of gasoline for responders in S MS at the time.

The gasoline issue is another reason I wouldn’t stay. Unless you can run a generator on natural gas and they don’t shut the supply lines down due to damage you can’t get much repair work done.

No repairs, no AC, questionable water supply and lots of bugs… hard pass.
Posted by Crawdaddy
Slidell. The jewel of Louisiana
Member since Sep 2006
18368 posts
Posted on 12/28/23 at 8:00 am to
I’ve seen this one before long ago
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
9451 posts
Posted on 12/28/23 at 8:06 am to
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The entire house was gone with the only thing remaining was a tiled shower wall. It was perpendicular to the beach so I guess after everything else gave way, it was free standing and able to withstand. 


Along with one of my cousins, probably in Nov or Dec, we took an ATV ride down what was left of the highway to look at the damage. We weren't in Long Beach because a National Guardsman in a Humvee was at the border between PC and Long Beach. He told us we couldn't cross. I asked if we should go back to the house. He said No, we could ride around PC all we wanted, but that we weren't allowed into Long Beach. He didn't know why, but we weren't allowed in Long Beach.

So we turned around and headed west. I saw a house about a half block off the beach with nothing left but a toilet. Everything else around it was completely slabbed. I drove up to it to look around. It had about 4 or 6 ~4" metal poles bolted to what apparently was the front porch. The wood cladding was gone and the poles bent to the slab. Each had 4 pretty substantial bolts thru a baseplate and into the slab. About half of the bolts were sheared off and the other half bent nearly 90°. Nothing else left on the slab except that one toilet.
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
38465 posts
Posted on 12/28/23 at 8:15 am to
The firefighter who shot all that video died in the line of duty in December of 2005. Those final clips at the end of the video must have been shot right before he died. The guy was talking about his wife and child at one point in the video. Really sad to see that then read the obit.

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Richard McCurley Obituary McCURLEY Richard ""Ricky'' B. McCurley, age 33, Captain of Engine 4 in New Orleans East, died in the line of duty on Friday, December 2, 2005 while responding to an emergency call. Cherished husband of Kyndel Peacock McCurley and devoted father to Richard ""Kai'' McCurley. Sworn in as Captain on September 4, 2005 at the bottom of the Crescent City Connection Bridge, Ricky was instrumental in helping save many lives during Hurricanes Katrina and Rita by performing heroic search and rescue missions. His passion and dedication as a firefighter were unparalleled, second only to his devotion as Kyndel's husband and his love of being Kai's daddy.


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Three months after surviving Hurricane Katrina in one of the most ravaged areas of New Orleans east, a young fire captain was killed. You can see the remarkable videotape that Captain Richard McCurley shot as he and his fire team worked during the worst week of Katrina by clicking the link below: "Katrina's Story: Captain Richard McCurley - Part 1". T he hardest part for the crew was not the storm, but to say goodbye to a hero and a friend. Captain McCurley was killed when his fire truck was smashed at an intersection in New Orleans east last December. He was responding to a routine gas leak, so common after the storm.
This post was edited on 12/28/23 at 8:31 am
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
27490 posts
Posted on 12/28/23 at 8:26 am to
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Not watching unless new footage of Superdome Snipers available
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