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If Use Your Illusion 1&2 was distilled to a traditional album
Posted on 12/13/23 at 6:20 pm
Posted on 12/13/23 at 6:20 pm
Would it have saved Guns n Roses?
And what songs would you have?
In no order, my submission:
Don't Cry 4:44
November Rain 8:57
Perfect Crime 2:23
Live and Let Die (wings cover) 3:04
You Could Be Mine 5:43
Get in the Ring 5:42
Knockin on Heaven's Door (dylan cover) 5:36
That's 36 minutes right there.
Civil War at 7:42 rounds it out.
And what songs would you have?
In no order, my submission:
Don't Cry 4:44
November Rain 8:57
Perfect Crime 2:23
Live and Let Die (wings cover) 3:04
You Could Be Mine 5:43
Get in the Ring 5:42
Knockin on Heaven's Door (dylan cover) 5:36
That's 36 minutes right there.
Civil War at 7:42 rounds it out.
This post was edited on 12/13/23 at 6:47 pm
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Posted on 12/13/23 at 6:30 pm to deeprig9
quote:
Would it have saved GNR?
Lost me.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 6:43 pm to deeprig9
How did the double album contribute to GNRs demise?
And list is shite w/out Estranged.
And list is shite w/out Estranged.
This post was edited on 12/13/23 at 6:45 pm
Posted on 12/13/23 at 6:46 pm to Saintsisit
quote:
And list is shite w/out Estranged.
In OP, I said "what would your list be?" so make one.
quote:
How did the double album contribute to GNRs demise?
They dumped every single song they had ever worked on into both albums, leaving them with nothing to work on for a next album.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 6:48 pm to shutterspeed
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Lost me.
I changed it to Guns n Roses. Is that acceptable?
Tough crowd here tonight.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 7:09 pm to deeprig9
Posted on 12/13/23 at 7:18 pm to deeprig9
quote:
quote:How did the double album contribute to GNRs demise?
They dumped every single song they had ever worked on into both albums, leaving them with nothing to work on for a next album.
I thought the demise was from burnout, creative differences and people quitting?
Posted on 12/13/23 at 7:25 pm to Havoc
quote:
I thought the demise was from burnout, creative differences and people quitting?
and Axl being an egotistical a-hole. Lack of creativity had nothing to do with it.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 7:43 pm to Brosef Stalin
Yeah Axl wanting to go Electronic after being hung up on NIN definitely played a part. They were falling apart before UYI release, with My World being added by Axl w/out most of the band knowing.
This post was edited on 12/13/23 at 7:44 pm
Posted on 12/13/23 at 7:49 pm to deeprig9
quote:
I changed it to Guns n Roses. Is that acceptable?
Pretty sure you lost him by insinuating the double album caused the breakup, not the fact that you typed GNR.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:16 pm to Brosef Stalin
That was part of it, but the rest of the band minus Sorum did not help. Slash and Duff were consistently fricked up on a regular basis....even Duff says that. It created a lot of friction because Axl was a showman and usually the delays were generally because they were waiting for Slash and Duff and before UYI Izzy to get sober enough to perform.
Posted on 12/14/23 at 12:49 am to Havoc
quote:Losing Izzy was devastating.
people quitting
Posted on 12/14/23 at 12:57 am to deeprig9
I'm with you Op. I've always thought this. Same for Smashing Pumpkins and Mellon Collie. Downvote away frickers.
Posted on 12/14/23 at 8:30 am to deeprig9
I get what you are saying. While producing a double album didn't necessarily lead to the break up, combining the two albums would have produced an absolutely brilliant work that would have been their pinnacle and could have helped keep them going off that momentum. Instead, they produced a great but flawed and overweight release. To answer your question:
1. Dust and Bones
2. Don't Cry
3. Double Talkin' Jive
4. The Garden
5. Don't Damn Me
6. Civil War
7. 14 Years
8. Yesterdays
9. Locomotive
10. So Fine
11. Estranged
12. Don't Cry
The order needs to be rearranged though (chrono order from the two albums above). The stuff at the end of UYI I needs to be at the end.
1. Dust and Bones
2. Don't Cry
3. Double Talkin' Jive
4. The Garden
5. Don't Damn Me
6. Civil War
7. 14 Years
8. Yesterdays
9. Locomotive
10. So Fine
11. Estranged
12. Don't Cry
The order needs to be rearranged though (chrono order from the two albums above). The stuff at the end of UYI I needs to be at the end.
Posted on 12/14/23 at 10:32 am to rebelrouser
I dunno, what's the point of being in a massive rock band if you can't make a bloated, self-indulgent record?
I would love to see a real warts and all documentary about Guns N Roses...how they went from being dirtbags to a huge band, all the drama that went on with making the Use Your Illusion records, the massive tour behind those albums, the drugs, how it all fell apart, the years working on Chinese Democracy, how they've kind of come back together.
They made a couple of great records, but they could have been the American Rolling Stones or had as deep of a catalog as Aerosmith.
I would love to see a real warts and all documentary about Guns N Roses...how they went from being dirtbags to a huge band, all the drama that went on with making the Use Your Illusion records, the massive tour behind those albums, the drugs, how it all fell apart, the years working on Chinese Democracy, how they've kind of come back together.
They made a couple of great records, but they could have been the American Rolling Stones or had as deep of a catalog as Aerosmith.
Posted on 12/14/23 at 11:21 am to deeprig9
quote:
Would it have saved Guns n Roses?
Would it have changed the substance abuse issues that were rampant in the band?
Posted on 12/14/23 at 12:16 pm to deeprig9
quote:
They dumped every single song they had ever worked on into both albums, leaving them with nothing to work on for a next album.
you clearly have no idea how records are made. what an idiot.
Posted on 12/14/23 at 12:48 pm to deeprig9
frick your list, no Estranged
Posted on 12/14/23 at 12:49 pm to deeprig9
quote:
They dumped every single song they had ever worked on into both albums, leaving them with nothing to work on for a next album.
Kind of like Physical Graffiti. Too many songs for one album and not enough for a double album so let's use some filler and make some money. And for those who think PG is LZ's best....you are wrong.
Posted on 12/14/23 at 2:18 pm to Midget Death Squad
quote:
you clearly have no idea how records are made. what an idiot.
Why do you have to be such a dick?
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