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re: If nurses across the US simply got paid more then we wouldn’t have a nursing shortage
Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:25 am to WeeWee
Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:25 am to WeeWee
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I guess you have never tried staying warm with an Eastern European woman on a cold winter night.
Ukrainian and Slovakian women are dimes. They’re also calm, collected, and mature unlike American women
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Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:27 am to JasonDBlaha
Why are yall talking about pretty women in a thread about nurses
Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:27 am to rltiger
No rant against doctors. This is a nurse thread and I mentioned how important they are. Someone said nurses are those who flunked medical school. My point it is the nurses we interacted with daily, not the physicians. Nurses are vital to medical care. All are a team and managed care has messed everything up.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:29 am to Bayou_Tiger_225
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Yes I’m joking, but your response is way over the top. Doctors are still way more important than nurses. And nurses are no more vital than many other jobs across this country. Hell, without the plant baws all them nurses would just be in the dark with no power.
If you’ve ever had a close family member like a parent get hospitalized for something serious, you would realize that both are equally important but in different ways. Think of a patient like a child. Who takes care of a child day-to-day? Think of all a parent does and that’s the role of a nurse in the hospital. A good one is worth their weight in gold but a bad one can really fk you up.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:30 am to LNCHBOX
By joking online in a thread started by an individual who thinks nurses are way more important/valuable than they actually are?
OP thinks nurses deserve a $350K salary. This whole thread was a joke from the start
OP thinks nurses deserve a $350K salary. This whole thread was a joke from the start
Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:30 am to el Gaucho
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Why are yall talking about pretty women in a thread about nurses
Nursing is a women’s profession and certain states have much hotter female nurses compared to others. For example, California
Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:30 am to Bayou_Tiger_225
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By joking
It's pretty obvious you aren't joking with your views on nurses. I'm just gonna assume one cheated on you or something.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:31 am to JasonDBlaha
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Sure, upping their pay will raise premiums
Obviously
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but in return the customers get high-quality care
What makes you so sure?
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It’s a win-win situation.
Not really.
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RNs start out at $21-$23 an hour.
That's a great starting wage.
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all of the nursing talent is going to California
It isn't.
This post was edited on 12/7/23 at 8:33 am
Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:32 am to rltiger
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When the residents round on the patients, who is in the room with them?
Most of the time- just THE NURSE
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When residents are on call, who do they phone at 3 am with questions on a course of action? Who goes in at 3 am when situations come up? The attending. Don’t spin this shite that residents are on their own making decisions and nurses make medical/medicinal decisions to save patients from residents.
That’s not the entirety of what I am saying.
And residents absolutely do assessments, order tests and all the things on their own.
They are only ALWAYS supervised if it’s an invasive intervention.
And nurses are USUALLY the ones catching the mistakes residents order- because we are the ones to implement them.
And I’m not creating an adversarial environment. It’s a fact and it applies to new nurses who don’t know shite abt Jack.
It only becomes adversarial if the nurse who catches the error is an a-hole abt it instead communicating well with the ordering MD.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:33 am to Bayou_Tiger_225
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OP thinks nurses deserve a $350K salary. This whole thread was a joke from the start
Occupations dominated by women constantly think theyre worth more than they are. Teaching/nursing.
They could have chosen an occupation that pays more from the start, if money is their motivation.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:36 am to SuperSaint
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SuperSaint
Found the real retard. Douchebag.
This post was edited on 12/7/23 at 8:51 am
Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:36 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Occupations dominated by women constantly think theyre worth more than they are. Teaching/nursing.
I’m glad you brought up teachers, too. Your child’s teacher spends a lot more time with them than you do. You don’t have to have the intelligence of a brain surgeon to be a teacher or a nurse, but the quality of both of those has a huge impact on our most vulnerable people. Increasing salary allows for selection of the top talent.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:36 am to Hateradedrink
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Sit in any hospital committee and you’ll see there’s no nursing shortage, they’re just all in “quality” or some other admin bullshite position.
The ultimate career goal in nursing is to be a middle age mediocre employee while also being a member of an unfireable demographic. It’s an express train to “management” and all of the other BS positions in a large hospital.
In a large bureaucracy the last thing that will happen is the promotion of a superstar hard worker that everyone loves.
Sally superstar takes double the patients, never screws up and everyone loves her, “we can’t afford to lose her on the floor”. Meanwhile Karen has an abrasive personality, trash work ethic and nearly killed somebody last week, “but she’s been here 20 years, everyone gets a little burnt out, it’s an honest mistake, she really understands how things work and we need someone who can be the new unit manager and hit the ground running and she almost meets the new education requirements we posted for that role”.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:36 am to LNCHBOX
Obviously the “nurses are med school fail outs” is a ridiculous statement meant to antagonize the nurses in this thread who were on the same side as OP who suggested a $350k salary, which is equally as ridiculous.
But I do believe doctors are more important than nurses.
But I do believe doctors are more important than nurses.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:37 am to Bayou_Tiger_225
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Obviously the “nurses are med school fail outs” is a ridiculous statement meant to antagonize the nurses in this thread who were on the same side as OP who suggested a $350k salary, which is equally as ridiculous.
I don't see anyone here agreeing with $350k a year for a bedside RN
Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:38 am to JasonDBlaha
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If nurses across the US simply got paid more then we wouldn’t have a nursing shortage
Oh yeah?
I wonder if there is a profession with similar staffing issues that is trying to use pay to attract applicants.
Oh…police have similar staffing issues let’s look at those numbers
Minneapolis PD…Starting @ about 75k…$125k after 10 years…nearly 400 officers short
NYPD starting pay ~$60k…120k after 5 years plus OT/holiday pay etc…1200 officer short
LAPD starts at ~$86k and about $95k after 1yr plus COLA and other benefits. About 600 officers short and at their current lowest staffing level in 30 years
Pay doesn’t fix shitty work environments. It only allows people to put up with the bullshite longer before leaving for greener pastures or attract new people who have no experience and don’t know any better.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:40 am to Rick9Plus
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I’m glad you brought up teachers, too. Your child’s teacher spends a lot more time with them than you do.
What kind of shitty parent are you??
This post was edited on 12/7/23 at 8:41 am
Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:41 am to brass2mouth
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Pay doesn’t fix shitty work environments. It only allows people to put up with the bull shite longer before leaving for greener pastures or attract new people who have no experience and don’t know any better.
It would take a combination of pay and a better environment to keep top people. Nurses, teachers, and cops have such an impact on society. They put up with the worst in people and are all subject to more workplace violence than any plant baw. When people in these fields who can get better jobs leave, it leaves those who can’t. When that happens you see the crumble of society we witness today.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:43 am to JasonDBlaha
There's a nursing shortage in the positions that are awful with terrible hours. There's an over supply of nurses who have the clinic jobs with good hours.
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