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Subbing a candidate out for Biden-- possible?

Posted on 12/4/23 at 1:11 pm
Posted by Thundercles
Mars
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 12/4/23 at 1:11 pm
Could someone with real political knowledge help me out on this-- aren't there deadlines by state right around November/December of this year that you have to file for in order to be on the ballot next year? And those filings are very public record and there are no doubt thousands of people scouring these daily?

Is the above true? If true, wouldn't we know if they're planning a switch? Is there a little known loophole Democrats can take advantage of to get a new candidate on the ballot sometime next year?

ETA:

I did some research instead of being lazy:

There is only a deadline to be on state ballots, not to be a nominee. You can be a nominee at any point.

On the Democrat side, delegates become "pledged" based on primary elections and are required to vote for the candidate based on their state's primary if they're still in the race.

If a candidate with pledged delegates drops out during the race after a state's primary, their delegates become "unpledged" and they can vote for whichever candidate they choose absent any democratic process. Since Biden will get practically all the delegates, they can choose whoever they want at the convention.

This is how they would pull off a candidate switch.
This post was edited on 12/4/23 at 2:18 pm
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
64584 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 1:12 pm to
It will continue to be ( D)ifferent
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
101845 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 1:13 pm to
The Dem nomination is so heavily controlled by “super delegates” that they could intentionally throw all votes to whoever they want to be the nominee and make it so without them ever receiving a single vote.
Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
19220 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 1:15 pm to
Biden will not be on the ticket, and even if there are laws and deadlines, they’ll be ignored, similar to the ways the laws were ignored in 2020.
Posted by BengalOnTheBay
Member since Aug 2022
3855 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 1:17 pm to
People here believe Biden will be replaced at the convention. I don't see it... they can't go with Kamala because she's horrible, and they can't jump Kamala with some white dude (Newsome, etc.) without pissing off the minority coalition.

It just isn't going to happen. They'll try to drag Biden across the finish line by any means necessary.
Posted by 79
Welp...
Member since Aug 2013
1045 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 1:21 pm to
quote:

they can't go with Kamala because she's horrible, and they can't jump Kamala with some white dude (Newsome, etc.) without pissing off the minority coalition.


Won't disagree here and that's why Michelle doesn't seem like a far-fetched idea. Lord help us because this has all the potential to cause more division than we've ever seen.
Posted by Thundercles
Mars
Member since Sep 2010
6048 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 1:22 pm to
quote:

they could intentionally throw all votes to whoever they want to be the nominee and make it so without them ever receiving a single vote.


So a potential secret candidate doesn't actually have to run at all, and they can just have their super delegates select a candidate at convention time?
Posted by Sus-Scrofa
Member since Feb 2013
9860 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 1:25 pm to
If they ever try to pull off the substitute, it will be Hillary Clinton.

May anyone who tries to get in front of her rest in peace.
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
14089 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 1:26 pm to
quote:

Could someone with real political knowledge help me out on this-- aren't there deadlines by state right around November/December of this year that you have to file for in order to be on the ballot next year? And those filings are very public record and there are no doubt thousands of people scouring these daily?

Is the above true? If true, wouldn't we know if they're planning a switch? Is there a little known loophole Democrats can take advantage of to get a new candidate on the ballot sometime next year?




The first thing you need to understand about election rules is that when it is advantageous to certain political parties to circumvent the rules, they will.

And there's nothing anyone will do about it.

Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
46281 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 1:28 pm to
It’s going to be Michelle.

And with that privilege no other explanation will be needed.

And anyone who is not happy with it can join t J6rs in Rikeers.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
101845 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 1:28 pm to
Effectively yes.

The Dems’ 2020 maneuvering effectively established that their primaries are advisory and didn’t control the actual nomination IIRC.
Posted by Ray Ray Rodman
Florida
Member since Mar 2005
17654 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 1:31 pm to
I think both Parties need to scrap all the candidates and go back to the drawing board. None of them are presidential material.
Posted by Hetfield
Dallas
Member since Jun 2013
8527 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 1:33 pm to
Did anyone notice in the Debate last week Newsome said “Neither of us will be the nominees for our respected parties”?

The theory is Newsome will be appointed at the DNC Convention once Biden drops out & Kamela is paid off to exit the ticket. The Bylaws at the DNC were changed & this can really happen.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
115739 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 1:34 pm to
quote:

The Dem nomination is so heavily controlled by “super delegates” that they could intentionally throw all votes to whoever they want to be the nominee and make it so without them ever receiving a single vote.


That doesn't sound very democratic. I thought Trump was going to destroy democracy.
Posted by Major Dutch Schaefer
Location: Classified
Member since Nov 2011
35617 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 1:35 pm to
If Biden dies or drops out AFTER the convention, the DNC picks the nominee.
Posted by Ray Ray Rodman
Florida
Member since Mar 2005
17654 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 1:38 pm to
quote:

If Biden dies or drops out AFTER the convention, the DNC picks the nominee.


This sounds like a Job for Hillary
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
32364 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 1:39 pm to
quote:

The Dem nomination is so heavily controlled by “super delegates” that they could intentionally throw all votes to whoever they want to be the nominee and make it so without them ever receiving a single vote.

This is why I'm certain that Newsom will be the nom.

The Establishment Uniparty will go to whatever means necessary in order to accomplish their goal. They proved this in 2020 with the Covid overreaction and using it to commit targeted fraud and steal a national election.

They have no standards except for double standards, and they're completely bereft of dignity and honesty. Maintaining power is all that matters.
Posted by Sidicous
NELA
Member since Aug 2015
18731 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 1:41 pm to
The Uniparty used the courts to prevent Ron Paul registering in multiple states way back. Be funny to see it come back to haunt them.
Posted by tadman
Member since Jun 2020
4830 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 1:43 pm to
Didn't Biden wait til April 2020 to declare his candidacy? He wanted nothing to do with it until they realized Trump was smoking the others.
Posted by riccoar
Arkansas
Member since Mar 2006
3992 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 1:51 pm to
Don't care how Democrats have him removed. It just doesn't need to be Republican led.

Make them do the work. Forcing Democrats to remove Biden will be far more detrimental to their platform. Because it shows he should have never been there in the first place and also that someone else has been running the show from day 1.
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