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Is the Christian God the same God of Judaism?
Posted on 11/23/23 at 9:02 pm
Posted on 11/23/23 at 9:02 pm
This question was posed to me today. I answered yes because Jesus practiced Judaism and prayed to the Jewish Yahweh.
The pushback was that Jesus is God and the God of Judaism isn’t a triune God.
What do you think?
The pushback was that Jesus is God and the God of Judaism isn’t a triune God.
What do you think?
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Posted on 11/23/23 at 9:05 pm to 4cubbies
Same Father. Not the same Savior.
Posted on 11/23/23 at 9:07 pm to 4cubbies
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Is the Christian God the same God of Judaism?
Absolutely
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The pushback was that Jesus is God and the God of Judaism isn’t a triune God.
Jesus is God whether or not the Jews believe it. He's STILL God. The Jews just have yet to accept it, unless they are Messianic Jews.
Posted on 11/23/23 at 9:07 pm to 4cubbies
No. The God of the Bible—including the Old Testament—is the same triune God of Christianity. The God as worshipped by the Jews is not the same because they reject the triune persons and with the singular nature of God. As Jesus said, if they don’t know Jesus, they don’t know the Father.
This post was edited on 11/23/23 at 9:55 pm
Posted on 11/23/23 at 9:08 pm to 4cubbies
The correct answer is yes.
Posted on 11/23/23 at 9:09 pm to MemphisGuy
quote:This was my response. The Jews just don’t know any better.
Jesus is God whether or not the Jews believe it.
Posted on 11/23/23 at 9:10 pm to 4cubbies
Yes. And the Torah makes up the first five books of our Christian Bible.
Posted on 11/23/23 at 9:13 pm to 4cubbies
So are the Jews going to hell? We know the Muslims are.
Posted on 11/23/23 at 9:15 pm to 4cubbies
"There is only one we come from, how could it be any other way"
TBD
TBD
Posted on 11/23/23 at 9:16 pm to OysterPoBoy
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So are the Jews going to hell? We know the Muslims are.
If they don't accept Jesus as their Lord and Savior they are.
Posted on 11/23/23 at 9:17 pm to 4cubbies
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the God of Judaism isn’t a triune God.
False.
Posted on 11/23/23 at 9:25 pm to 4cubbies
No. Even putting aside that Christians (as in true, actual Christians) believe that no man comes to the Father except through Christ (and therefore the very nature of God hinges on the truth or falsity of that claim), today’s Jews are of a different tradition really.
If you’re talking about first -century Jews who rejected Christ, then I’ll grant you a “sort of” (although the crazy legalism and hypocrisy of the first century Jews had little resemblance to true worship of the God of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, and David. But second-temple, Talmudic/Rabbinic Judaism is basically a monotheistic cult based on legalism and ritualism.
If you’re talking about first -century Jews who rejected Christ, then I’ll grant you a “sort of” (although the crazy legalism and hypocrisy of the first century Jews had little resemblance to true worship of the God of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, and David. But second-temple, Talmudic/Rabbinic Judaism is basically a monotheistic cult based on legalism and ritualism.
Posted on 11/23/23 at 9:26 pm to RollTide1987
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False.
How? You think Jews believe their messiah will be God? The logos?
Posted on 11/23/23 at 9:32 pm to 4cubbies
same God, the Jews are just still waiting for the messiah, they don't believe in the Christion one
Posted on 11/23/23 at 9:34 pm to dantes69
That’s way overly simplistic. No Jew today would say they are waiting for a messiah who is actually God.
Also, John 5:45–47 is instructive:
Do not think I will accuse you before the Father. Your accuser is Moses, on whom your hopes are set. If you believed Moses, you would believe me, for he wrote about me. But since you do not believe what he wrote, how are you going to believe what I say?
Also, John 5:45–47 is instructive:
Do not think I will accuse you before the Father. Your accuser is Moses, on whom your hopes are set. If you believed Moses, you would believe me, for he wrote about me. But since you do not believe what he wrote, how are you going to believe what I say?
Posted on 11/23/23 at 9:35 pm to 4cubbies
Yes, if you believe the old testament of the Bible, and I might add, he is the Muslim God too according to their Koran. I don't understand why we all fight over religion when we all worship the same big guy.
Posted on 11/23/23 at 9:36 pm to dantes69
quote:If the God of Christianity is three persons with one nature (the Trinity: Father, Son, and Spirit), and the Jews believe that God is unity only (just the Father), then they believe in a different God than what the Christians proclaim. It's an identity issue.
same God, the Jews are just still waiting for the messiah, they don't believe in the Christion one
I believe the God of Abraham is triune, but the Jews do not believe that, so they don't believe in the Biblical God as revealed through the Scriptures, and especially in the person of Jesus Christ.
Posted on 11/23/23 at 9:36 pm to 4cubbies
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This post was edited on 12/31/23 at 11:37 pm
Posted on 11/23/23 at 9:48 pm to 4cubbies
Yes. The God of the Followers of the Cross (aka Christians) is the same God of the Jews.
Yeshua (aka Jesus) is what happened when God chose to become a man. The Eucharist (Living Bread) is what happened when Jesus (God) presented himself as body, blood, soul, and divinity under the appearance of bread and wine the night before he was crucified. Therefore when we worship Jesus we worship God, and when we consume the Eucharist we consume God. Furthermore, to make war against the Jews and Christians is to make war against God. It's that simple.
"My flesh is real food, my blood is real drink. He who eats my flesh, and drinks my blood, lives continually in me, and I in him". - John 6:56-57
Yeshua (aka Jesus) is what happened when God chose to become a man. The Eucharist (Living Bread) is what happened when Jesus (God) presented himself as body, blood, soul, and divinity under the appearance of bread and wine the night before he was crucified. Therefore when we worship Jesus we worship God, and when we consume the Eucharist we consume God. Furthermore, to make war against the Jews and Christians is to make war against God. It's that simple.
"My flesh is real food, my blood is real drink. He who eats my flesh, and drinks my blood, lives continually in me, and I in him". - John 6:56-57
This post was edited on 11/23/23 at 10:10 pm
Posted on 11/23/23 at 9:54 pm to OysterPoBoy
If they don’t accept Christ as their savior they will go to hell just like anyone else.
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