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Posted on 11/15/23 at 1:55 pm to Spaceman Spiff
Wtf are we gonna do? Spend trillions on another unwinnable war? Just keep shooting down their shitty little missiles
This post was edited on 11/15/23 at 1:56 pm
Posted on 11/15/23 at 1:55 pm to RebelRye
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So the potato came from the sky??
landed just a little south of Moline
Posted on 11/15/23 at 2:12 pm to Pax Regis
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Our military can’t finish the job against any third world shithole since the 60s.
Our military is still great at war. We just suck at occupations.
Posted on 11/15/23 at 2:18 pm to kennypowers
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These 3rd world shitholes
Some of those 3rd world shite holes are undefeated. Afghanistan comes to kind. Peak Russia and Peak USA left and you know what? It's the same as it was when they got there. You are using American standards to judge these places. They don't give AF or they would be trying to be more western.
Posted on 11/15/23 at 2:30 pm to kennypowers
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don't know what they will incur if we decide to get up from our cups of coffee. FAFO.
Only people who have not been in the US Military think this way..
some shite hole may start it, but Russia/China/Iran steps in to finish it..
by the time congress votes to launch a Nuc back, half the us is crispy
Posted on 11/15/23 at 2:33 pm to Spaceman Spiff
So prepare, say a prayer
Send the word, send the word to beware
We'll be over, we're coming over
And we won't come back till it's over, over there.
We're now in a multinational overseas war, boys and girls. Thanks Joe!
Send the word, send the word to beware
We'll be over, we're coming over
And we won't come back till it's over, over there.
We're now in a multinational overseas war, boys and girls. Thanks Joe!
Posted on 11/15/23 at 2:49 pm to Tall Tiger
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Thanks Joe!
plenty before him didnt do shite when they could have
Posted on 11/15/23 at 2:56 pm to kennypowers
Yemen should have been glassed after they attacked the USS Cole
Posted on 11/15/23 at 3:07 pm to kennypowers
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The amount of restraint we continue to show as a military is crazy.
It's not really restraint.
Today Skippers have monumentally less authority and freedom to make command decisions than they did prior to Slick Willie taking charge. I imagine it's even worse in today's Navy. Though I'm fairly certain todays Skippers don't have half of the training and experience running naval vessel as they did back then to so maybe it's not a bad thing.
Posted on 11/15/23 at 3:09 pm to Spaceman Spiff
I'm a huge fan of us 100% pulling out of all of these middle east shitholes. No troops on the ground. At the same time make press releases and a statement from the oval office that we will leave them to their destiny - our days of nation building are over. That being said, if we intercept an active plot to committ terrorism on American soil or an attack goes off, we will rain hellfire and brimstone on a magnitude the world has never seen on the perpetrators. We will not invade, we will not put any boots on the ground, but we will make the locations that had anything to do with the terrorism into the world's biggest parking lots.
Posted on 11/15/23 at 3:13 pm to holmesbr
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Some of those 3rd world shite holes are undefeated. Afghanistan comes to kind. Peak Russia and Peak USA left and you know what? It's the same as it was when they got there. You are using American standards to judge these places. They don't give AF or they would be trying to be more western.
wait...are you under the impression we didnt win? dont confuse leaving a place because we no longer want to occupy it with losing. shows your ignorance.
we set out to destroy AQ and OBL...we did that. dont give a frick about the taliban, never did.
Posted on 11/15/23 at 3:21 pm to kennypowers
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You’re stuck in the 1940s. Our military can’t finish the job against any third world shithole since the 60s. Hell, the 50s if you count Korea.
You're factually correct, but not because the military can't do it. Our society has become weak. Most can't stomach an actual full on war. We play by "rules" now.
This is true. We haven't been in a SERIOUS war since WW2, and honestly even going back to WW1 it's been about exerting our influence. We haven't been threatened on our native soil for over a century (Hawaii wasn't a state in WW2).
Every conflict we get into, we 'follow rules' because our opponent is faced with holding us off, and nothing more.
Going back to WW2- Japan showed the world what happens if you engage us directly. They hit a naval base a couple thousand miles from our shores, and we systemically beat their military back to their own country, and then began bombing it into oblivion until they surrendered unconditionally- while committing half of our forces to the European conflict.
That is why China won't touch Taiwan, or anything else out there. And why the USSR focused more on nuclear deterrent than trying to take more of Europe. We haven't been threatened since, we just punch people randomly on their territory. If the US were truly interested in conquest instead of being noble, I suspect we'd already own the planet by now, and just be quashing uprisings on occasion.
Posted on 11/15/23 at 3:23 pm to X123F45
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But according to the father in law... That little deatroyer could sink any previous battleship before it even knew they were there.
I work at a facility that supports the DDG. Its weapons system is pretty absurd.
Posted on 11/15/23 at 3:27 pm to Scoob
Heck..they should continue to send Drones..
Make up a schedule and everybody gets a copy.
Good practice for our boys...Got 3 of them today. They were really flying good this morning guys
Make up a schedule and everybody gets a copy.
Good practice for our boys...Got 3 of them today. They were really flying good this morning guys
Posted on 11/15/23 at 3:31 pm to 777Tiger
The Vatican said it belonged in Rome
Posted on 11/15/23 at 3:33 pm to kennypowers
Have you seen the people in charge of our military these days? Maybe this is the best we can do.
Posted on 11/15/23 at 3:33 pm to kennypowers
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You're factually correct, but not because the military can't do it. Our society has become weak. Most can't stomach an actual full on war. We play by "rules" now.
That's it in a nutshell. When it comes to war, we play by "Rules for me, but not for thee."
Of course the MIC doesn't really want us to win, so the wars all drag out and they can maximize profits.
Posted on 11/15/23 at 3:41 pm to X123F45
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That little deatroyer could sink any previous battleship before it even knew they were there.
I was on a DDG, this is an exaggerated statement for sure..We were there to find Subs and glass some sand palaces that we couldnt even find on maps
Posted on 11/15/23 at 5:43 pm to lsu777
I will throw a downvote in that. That country is in the same spot as it was before we got there. AQ/OBL/Taliban or whatever the current flavor of oppression is. Our country is just as vulnerable as it was. Maybe a little safer because you have to take off your belt and shoes at some point to fly.
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