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Glass or composite cranking rods?

Posted on 11/13/23 at 2:01 pm
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81736 posts
Posted on 11/13/23 at 2:01 pm
I have never been much of a cranker but this is coming up more and more in my fishing. Are they worth it? Are they enjoyable to use? If so, got recs for light weight cranks? I am not asking about deeper stuff. A lot of the Kistler stuff is on sale right now, and one of their lines looks good for this.
Posted by Elblancodiablo
Member since Sep 2023
1829 posts
Posted on 11/13/23 at 2:43 pm to
I still lke graphite. You don't have to go glass to get the action you need for cranks.
Posted by CHGAR
Haile, LA
Member since Aug 2022
573 posts
Posted on 11/13/23 at 2:44 pm to
Personally, I have never found the need for glass or composite cranking rods. Supposedly the slower actions and deeper flex enable to keep fish buttoned up thus have fewer throw your lure. I have never found this be either true or false and boat plenty on crankbaits using the same rod I use for spinnerbaits, worms, and jigs. My preference is to use fast action rods and select rod based on weights of lures.

If you are worried about a rod being "too fast", spool up some mono for crankbaits.

Kistler rods used to great but the blanks have changed so I don't know anymore. Have heard many people complain that Trey does not honor warranties but I do not know if this is true or not. Might want to look into the Dobyns line if warranty matter to you.
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
17334 posts
Posted on 11/13/23 at 3:43 pm to
I’ve used both and I wouldn’t say it’s worth it for shallow running cranks. It’s really hard to describe the difference in feel, but I’d just call it different as opposed to better. I think nostalgia sells more glass rods than anything but it does give a little more consistently over the length of the blank to keep the fish hooked while still having backbone. It used to cost more in a graphite rod to achieve that but I don’t think it’s that hard to produce today. If you’re not losing fish currently, I wouldn’t fix what ain’t broke.
Posted by TheBoo
South to Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
4543 posts
Posted on 11/13/23 at 4:01 pm to
I have both, and with glass being a little heavier it makes throwing lighter crank baits a little harder. A good, lightweight, medium action graphite rod works better for those small light crankbaits in my experience. I find the better glass application for me is buzz baits.
Posted by bocro
Member since Feb 2021
61 posts
Posted on 11/13/23 at 4:57 pm to
I have a few of the newer Kistlers. I throw treble hooks with a 6'6 med KLX due to its slower action. Would suggest a lmh or mh if you throw deeper diving cranks
Posted by The Last Coco
On the water
Member since Mar 2009
6841 posts
Posted on 11/13/23 at 5:21 pm to
I've used a Shimano expride 610M that's a glass Composite for the past several years and love it. It's excellent for small crankbaits and is an awesome chatterbait mini max rod.

I do not like it for squarebills however. The tip is where the glass is located and it is very soft and slow so squarebills are not as erratic when defelcting off cover.
Posted by DTRooster
Belle River, La
Member since Dec 2013
7963 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 5:25 am to
Moderate fast medium heavy in graphite will do the deal with any treble hook bait you put on it in my opinion.
Posted by joeyp
destrehan,la
Member since Nov 2008
183 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 8:43 am to
I bought a new shimano zodias last year to see how I liked them to throw small squarebills. After throwing it a bit, I liked using my older daiwa tatula xt crankbait rod instead. Its a graphite rod with a softer tip. It casts the smaller cranks better and can feel more with it. Both are 7' M rods. I do like using the zodias for bigger sqaurebills like the 1.5s. I also bought a 7'3 MH glass zodias to try for chatterbaits and I love it. It casts the 3/8 jackhammer really well and I can feel more thump than the graphite rod I was using before it.
Posted by The Last Coco
On the water
Member since Mar 2009
6841 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 8:45 am to
quote:

Moderate fast medium heavy in graphite will do the deal with any treble hook bait you put on it in my opinion.


I tend to lean more toward a Medium power/fast action for most treble hook applications other than straight cranking:

- squarebills
- topwater poppers and walking baits up to 125 size
- lipless
- jerkbaits
- sub-surface walking baits

I also throw almost exclusively 20lb braid to mono leader on these rods now.
Posted by Skeeterzx190
Ponchatoula
Member since Sep 2019
189 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 9:21 am to
I like fiberglass for deeper diving crank baits when I go out of town fishing somewhere. I think composite is just fine in the marsh and south la with the shallower running crank baits
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81736 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 10:21 am to
quote:

20lb braid to mono leader
Some videos showing the suction effect of bass on prey has made me stop using braid for most moving baits. I was having a lot of problems with chatterbaits.
Posted by The Last Coco
On the water
Member since Mar 2009
6841 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 10:35 am to
quote:

Some videos showing the suction effect of bass on prey has made me stop using braid for most moving baits. I was having a lot of problems with chatterbaits.


Got any links? I'd be interested to see that.

And chatterbaits I had problems with until I switched to the composite rod. Even fishing a mod fast graphite rod I missed lots of bites. Once I made the switch though, I have an incredibly high hookup ratio using braid to leader.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81736 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 11:00 am to
quote:

Got any links? I'd be interested to see that.
One was on the Hook n Look tv show. I will try to find a source.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81736 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 11:10 am to
Just a few links with no names,
LINK
LINK
Can't find the Hook n Look one. It was on crank baits too.
Posted by Elblancodiablo
Member since Sep 2023
1829 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 1:09 pm to
I like falcon hd medium action for cranks. They work great on spinnerbaits and topwater too.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81736 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 1:50 pm to
quote:

I like falcon hd medium action for cranks.
I have had some HDs in the past. If I go with Falcon for this, I am eyeing the Mansfield Low Rider model.
Posted by Elblancodiablo
Member since Sep 2023
1829 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 2:13 pm to
Not much point in spending big money on a crankbait rod. Save that money and drop extra on your bottom contact setups.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81736 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 4:05 pm to
quote:

Save that money and drop extra on your
quote:

bottom contact setups.


I really don't do that anymore.
Posted by The Last Coco
On the water
Member since Mar 2009
6841 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 4:33 pm to
I have yet to build on them, but I'd look into a custom rod built on either an nfc all-purpose fast glass blank or one of their delta hybrid zentron blanks. The APFG 742 or Delta Hybrid CB 704 specifically I'd look at.

ETA: I have a CB 705 on order to replace my aforementioned expride. Allegedly, the delta hybrid nfc blanks are the blanks used on the original kistler feel n reel rods that are so beloved.
This post was edited on 11/14/23 at 4:44 pm
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