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re: Voting machines have been shut down in several Pennsylvania districts due to votes flippin

Posted on 11/7/23 at 4:14 pm to
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
7855 posts
Posted on 11/7/23 at 4:14 pm to
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I asked everyone I knew how the votes would be hacked when the votes are literally pieces of paper that get printed out and reviewed by the voter before turning them in


Oh, I don't know. I am sure there is absolutely no way to print out what the voter wanted to happen but the actual vote in the machine is different.
Posted by jackamo3300
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2004
2901 posts
Posted on 11/7/23 at 4:22 pm to
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I was told this was literally uNpOsSiBlE.


Politics is the art of the possible.

Dominion announced just recently that its next machines will have modems on them.

Even with all the gnashing of teeth and outrage, they're brazen enough to announce this to cause more of it.

So ya' ain't seen nothin' yet.
This post was edited on 11/7/23 at 4:24 pm
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37846 posts
Posted on 11/7/23 at 4:26 pm to
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If a voter cast a Yes” vote for one of the incumbents, but a “No” vote for the other, the votes come out flipped, Northampton County Executive McClure said.


When are elections for actual positions (not taxes or amendments) done on a Yes/No basis? I've never heard of this.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37846 posts
Posted on 11/7/23 at 4:31 pm to
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A programming error with the county’s ES&S ExpressVote XL machines is causing votes to flip when voters split their votes on retention questions for Superior Court judges Jack Panella and Victor P. Stabile. Panella, of Palmer Township, is a Democrat while Stabile is a former chair of the Cumberland County Republican Committee.

If a voter cast a “Yes” vote for one of the incumbents, but a “No” vote for the other, the votes come out flipped, Northampton County Executive Lamont McClure said.


So one's a GOP and one's a dem, and their votes are getting flipped around, and they are in different races.

It's unacceptable that this happened. But this isn't really fraud. If it was Dem fraud, then I'd expect the Dem candidate votes would flip from no to yes, and the repub candidate flip from yes to no.
Posted by tigerfan 64
in the LP
Member since Sep 2016
4525 posts
Posted on 11/7/23 at 4:33 pm to
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They did a hand recount of the paper ballots in Georgia

Your words.

Nondemocrats want audits. Democrats refuse, fighting every effort.
Democrats want recounts (which only serve to recount potentially inelligible ballots), Non democrats fight for audits, seeking to count only legitimate votes.
Posted by ksayetiger
Centenary Gents
Member since Jul 2007
68841 posts
Posted on 11/7/23 at 4:39 pm to
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What is RAWSALERTS?


The next company to be investigated by the IRS and shut down by the FCC
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
8577 posts
Posted on 11/7/23 at 4:48 pm to
So done with all this crap. Why should I invest in any election anymore?
Posted by RedStickFox
Member since Sep 2022
294 posts
Posted on 11/7/23 at 5:03 pm to
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I voted in Louisiana today. You do not get a paper ballot printout, you just throw a plastic card into a red tray.


Correct! We should get the same machines that were used in Georgia and Pennsylvania in 2020! They give you paper ballots!

I think you're a liberal now. Be careful. This forum hates those stupid liberals that like paper ballots.
Posted by RedStickFox
Member since Sep 2022
294 posts
Posted on 11/7/23 at 5:06 pm to
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Oh, I don't know. I am sure there is absolutely no way to print out what the voter wanted to happen but the actual vote in the machine is different.


You are correct. It is possible that the vote in the machine is different than the paper ballot.

Now please explain to me how the machine might have changed votes if we did a hand recount of the paper ballots and got the same vote total? If you can explain that to me I'd love it cause I've been asking for 3 years and haven't gotten a better answer than "you're a lib cuck lulz."
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
28870 posts
Posted on 11/7/23 at 5:08 pm to
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RedStickFox

Posted by RedStickFox
Member since Sep 2022
294 posts
Posted on 11/7/23 at 5:11 pm to
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It just proves our elections arent secure and anyone saying that the 2020 election was the most secure election ever is just a gaslighting scumbag.


So the fact that the voting system alerted voters that their votes were not being tallied correctly proves that it's not secure?

Excuse me, but if the system just showed us that it alerts the voters that there votes weren't tallied correctly, isn't that exactly what we want? You are basically saying "this evil corrupt system alerted us to an error and we are able to fix it! Corruption!"

Posted by RedStickFox
Member since Sep 2022
294 posts
Posted on 11/7/23 at 5:11 pm to
Why are you so angry that I want paper ballots?

Were you dropped on your head as a child or something?
Posted by ole man
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
12630 posts
Posted on 11/7/23 at 5:12 pm to
Shut the frick up dude
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
41088 posts
Posted on 11/7/23 at 5:13 pm to
This guy has been on a tear. He wants the world to know he’s retarded.
Posted by This GUN for HIRE
Member since May 2022
3228 posts
Posted on 11/7/23 at 5:13 pm to
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RedStickFox


Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
28870 posts
Posted on 11/7/23 at 5:15 pm to
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RedStickFox


You are in a thread about them shutting down voting machines because they were fricking votes up trying to to tell people there is no problem

You are a retarded piece of shite

Now frick off back to whatever liberal hell hole you came out of
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
64044 posts
Posted on 11/7/23 at 5:23 pm to
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If not, why not?

Revisit my ruler analogy. Any measurement can be imprecise and correct at the same time when the standard applied is flawed.

The premise that in a coordinated election fraud scenario the QR code (which is the ONLY thing that's being counted) and the text summary are reflecting the same voter intent is tenuous at best.

A full forensic audit of the ballots, the machines and the software would clear all of this up. The problem is, establishment career politicians types in all swing states from 2020 and beyond have fought tooth and nail from being scrutinized on a microscopic level. That tells me they're hiding something.

The gaslighting PR campaign to lionize Ruby Freeman and her Urban Democracy Squad is additional evidence to support this. Ditto for unconstitutional silencing of any dissenting opinions of the Most Secure Election in Our Nation's History™ narrative.
This post was edited on 11/7/23 at 5:24 pm
Posted by Jspaspa3303
Member since Jun 2020
2524 posts
Posted on 11/7/23 at 5:23 pm to
We have to move on from 2020 remember !!!!’ This is the result of moving on and not talking about it . bullshite like this happens . Complete buffoons to think 2020 was fair, and the criminal democrats would not do it again. This is the result .
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
20548 posts
Posted on 11/7/23 at 5:24 pm to
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Not sure why anyone would think this proves the 2020 election was stolen.


It proves, at the very least, a significant deficiency in the control system, which would require further testing of the system. Or testing in the first place
Posted by RedStickFox
Member since Sep 2022
294 posts
Posted on 11/7/23 at 5:27 pm to
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You are in a thread about them shutting down voting machines because they were fricking votes up trying to to tell people there is no problem


Where am I saying there's no problem? I'm pointing out the fact that this system alerts us to when there is a problem. If machines were swapping votes from Trump to Biden in 2020, they would have seen it on the paper like these people did. And if the paper didn't match the electronic tally, they would have found that during the hand recount.

I can't explain this any simpler. Would you like to try to explain to me why you hate these paper ballots?
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