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re: 16yo Son wants to be a medic in army or marines

Posted on 11/4/23 at 8:55 am to
Posted by HeadSlash
TEAM LIVE BADASS - St. GEORGE
Member since Aug 2006
49852 posts
Posted on 11/4/23 at 8:55 am to
Join Navy for 20 years
See the world
Retire at 38
Start 2nd career with an EMS company
Retire at 58
2 retirement incomes
Posted by boudinman
Member since Nov 2019
5121 posts
Posted on 11/4/23 at 8:56 am to
Make sure any promises by the military recruiter are placed in writing, otherwise your son will be up the creek with no paddle.
Posted by BowDownToLSU
Livingston louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
19281 posts
Posted on 11/4/23 at 8:59 am to
I’m not sure either way but congratulations on a job well done as a dad. Sounds like your son has his priorities right
Posted by bobBoxer
the great state of Texas
Member since Jun 2022
623 posts
Posted on 11/4/23 at 9:02 am to
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The bad thing about trying out to be a PJ is that there is around a 85% attrition rate going through traing that takes over 2 years. Some of the hardest in the military. He said he can't live with himself if he doesn't try. I'm proud he wants to serve but scared for him at the same time
you can just feel something about to pop off and don't want my son anywhere near, i really think he wants to prove something to me or himself, im so proud of him for having his shite together way more than I did, but I dont want him going to ukraine and getting shot by some russian neither
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
15720 posts
Posted on 11/4/23 at 9:03 am to
He wants them to pay for EMT school so he can get PTSD then get out and make $12/hour? Nah, make the Feds pay for nursing school or even a pre-med degree with GI bill.
And don’t finance any chargers for 15% interest.
Posted by Westbank111
Armpit of America
Member since Sep 2013
1989 posts
Posted on 11/4/23 at 9:10 am to
I’m as pro-American as they come, but right now, and for a long time, have been controlled by the MIC/Pentagon/Globalist Elite and defense contractors.

They make money by sending our youth to endless battles where they leave them there in the blink of an eye.

No way I would encourage my son to join the modern day forces run by guys in heals and lipstick.

Our soldiers have to play by the rules of engagement & hands tied behind their backs, while the Taliban has more rights than our guys.

In all Due respect to you and your son, but Screw that, I’d find another way. We are about to be in battles all over the place if we don’t. Turn this around quickly, so he may not even have a choice.

Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
15576 posts
Posted on 11/4/23 at 9:13 am to
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This guy is talking about going to an entry level trade school as a career I don’t think 4-year undergrad plus professional school is in the cards.

What are you talking about? He’s a kid and needs a vision. If his lifelong plan is to be an EMT-B for Acadian have at it, but if I had a kid I’d be giving him real advice
Posted by Mushroom1968
Member since Jun 2023
1622 posts
Posted on 11/4/23 at 9:27 am to
Been a paramedic for fire department 24 years and was an emt for 2 years. I don’t know much about military. I will advise not to go work for any random ambulance service, 5 years he will be burnt out and regretting it. The firefighter route is good but he needs to be cautious on getting on a fire dept that runs ambulance service. Unfortunately I chose a department with ambulances.

Many fire departments will hire you and at least pay to send him to emt school. Paramedic school can be expensive and varies by department whether they will pay or not. If he can find a good fire department that pays extra for being a medic but doesn’t have ambulances I’d go that route. Even for fire departments, if they have ambulances, expect to be stuck on them first 10-15 years.


Eta: I’ll say this, I’ve advised my kids to stay away from first responder type jobs, at least from busy departments, especially involving ambulances. I wish I had chose a different path
This post was edited on 11/4/23 at 9:31 am
Posted by LAhinguarst
The Box
Member since Oct 2020
398 posts
Posted on 11/4/23 at 9:30 am to
So if he joins he will get at least an EMT cert. Possibly and EMTA. Also if he is in LA and in the national guard, we now get tuition and Fee Exemption, of he wants to go on to be a paramedic.

The army offers a paramedic program but it's mostly reserved for flight medics.

You're correct with the state licensing, but in most states they accept NREMT, a few don't (Texas has its own state process).
Posted by 3deadtrolls
lafayette
Member since Jan 2014
5737 posts
Posted on 11/4/23 at 9:30 am to
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but the Army medics and Navy/Marine corpsmen I encountered in Vietnam were heroes, to a man and very well trained for a future in emergency medicine.




One of my uncles was an Army medic in Vietnam. I can only imagine the things he saw and dealt with on a daily basis. He had a lot of stories and I wish he was still around to tell them. I remember him telling me a story about running over a Vietnamese soldier that was shooting at him with a truck, and he followed it up with a "frick that guy".
Posted by Mushroom1968
Member since Jun 2023
1622 posts
Posted on 11/4/23 at 9:32 am to
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If his lifelong plan is to be an EMT-B for Acadian have at it, but if I had a kid I’d be giving him real advice


I’d rather my kid flip burgers than be an emt at Acadian
Posted by brass2mouth
NOLA
Member since Jul 2007
19713 posts
Posted on 11/4/23 at 10:54 am to
Tell him to joint the military and do something completely different. Mechanic, HVAC, information security…anything. Get experience and knowledge in a completely different career path.

Then use the military to pay for his schooling to become an EMT/paramedic.

That way when/if he gets burnt out he has something he can fall back on and do something different.

There is such a huge shortage of police/EMS right now they’re just looking for a pulse in some places.
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
87515 posts
Posted on 11/4/23 at 11:44 am to
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I find it positively fascinating that the kid wants to be an EMT and people are suggesting setting his sights on being a PJ. PJs are tier 2 (tier 1 if 24th STS). Who is going to go through that hell with the plan to get out and be an EMT? It is like someone saying they want to be a paralegal and the suggestion is to go to Stanford or Yale law school to get there.


was thinking the same thing

son of a friend of mine was a PJ in Iraq and Afghanistan and he went through some really intense training and combat.

the medical part of his job was the easy part. the toughest was being inserted for a downed helicopter, miles deep in to enemy held territories
Posted by bobBoxer
the great state of Texas
Member since Jun 2022
623 posts
Posted on 11/4/23 at 11:55 am to
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Tell him to joint the military and do something completely different. Mechanic, HVAC, information security…anything. Get experience and knowledge in a completely different career path.

Then use the military to pay for his schooling to become an EMT/paramedic.

That way when/if he gets burnt out he has something he can fall back on and do something different.

There is such a huge shortage of police/EMS right now they’re just looking for a pulse in some places.



Definitely gonna tell him all of this, he definitely wants to be an EMT/paramedic just trying to figure out the best route for him to get there without being swamped in debt, i really do appreciate yall
Posted by Mushroom1968
Member since Jun 2023
1622 posts
Posted on 11/4/23 at 12:06 pm to
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Tell him to joint the military and do something completely different. Mechanic, HVAC, information security…anything. Get experience and knowledge in a completely different career path. Then use the military to pay for his schooling to become an EMT/paramedic. That way when/if he gets burnt out he has something he can fall back on and do something different. There is such a huge shortage of police/EMS right now they’re just looking for a pulse in some places.



Best advice in the thread, jealous I didn’t put it this way.
Posted by USAFLSUTIGER
Alaska
Member since Sep 2011
287 posts
Posted on 11/4/23 at 12:07 pm to
The Marines don’t have medics. He would have to be in the Navy and attached to a Marine unit.
Posted by Alika_kahuna
Member since May 2021
166 posts
Posted on 11/4/23 at 12:18 pm to
I was a Navy Corpsman. Got my EMT national cert. It was the best time of my life... Early 90s in San Diego lol. Marines will treat you good. I learned independence and motivation in the military. Got all kinds of experience and certs. You can also specialize as a Corpsman. You do way more than civilian nurses. I have friends who have moved on to be civilian surgical techs, respiratory techs, PAs.

I used my GI bill to get a degree and moved onto something else but that experience shaped me.
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
7441 posts
Posted on 11/4/23 at 12:18 pm to
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I'll be honest with you. I use to take a lot of pride in our military and promised myself if we were in a real war with china I would be the first to enlist. However...now a days? Do you want your son to serve a military outfit that cannot even clearly define what is a man and what is a woman? That one of the highest position in the army is given to a confused and possibly mentally ill man?


So you've never been in the military but are an expert based on...? What Tommy fricking Tuberville tells you (never served)?

Go frick yourself. Seriously.
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
68485 posts
Posted on 11/4/23 at 12:28 pm to
I was an Army medic, fun times at Ft. Sam Houston.

I also did a rotation at Ft. Stewart with civilian staff for brushing soldiers up on their basic combat casualty skills such as needle chest decompression

I learned how to administer fentanyl ketamine iv fluids plus know how to perform a cricothyrotomy
Posted by OTIS2
NoLA
Member since Jul 2008
50195 posts
Posted on 11/4/23 at 12:33 pm to
Medics for the Marines serve in the Navy
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