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re: Hospital in Gaza hit- hundreds dead (Possibly hit by Hamas rocket)
Posted on 10/17/23 at 4:31 pm to JJJimmyJimJames
Posted on 10/17/23 at 4:31 pm to JJJimmyJimJames
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Occam finds his sharpest edge at somebody else firing the missile (elsewhere claimed to be a "JDAM" not a roman candle)
Then you don’t know how to apply Occams Razor.
The simplest explanation is an errant launch nearby.
The more complex explanation is Isreal fired a single shot (not likely) targeting a hospital (not likely) before the Hamas launches so that it struck during the Hamas launch for cover. Which means they would have to anticipate the Hamas launch for cover and launch theirs before Hamas (highly unlikely).
This post was edited on 10/17/23 at 4:33 pm
Posted on 10/17/23 at 4:35 pm to Lsupimp
What a relief that a country that allowed terrorists to just ride bikes across their border is so militarily competent that none of their missiles ever hit anything that they do not intend to hit.
It killed civilians "ISRAEL DIDN'T DO IT THEY DON'T KILL CIVILIANS!". God's Chosen Weapons Nav System, apparently.
Jeez....
It killed civilians "ISRAEL DIDN'T DO IT THEY DON'T KILL CIVILIANS!". God's Chosen Weapons Nav System, apparently.
Jeez....
Posted on 10/17/23 at 4:43 pm to BigBro
There's video on X showing the hospital strike. It sounds and looks identical to an American JDAM missile. A high velocity, targeting strike.
The same video shows a Hamas missile for comparison.
It isn't a missile that just floated down and landed haphazardly.
You decide
The same video shows a Hamas missile for comparison.
It isn't a missile that just floated down and landed haphazardly.
You decide
This post was edited on 10/17/23 at 4:45 pm
Posted on 10/17/23 at 4:46 pm to BobBoucher
quote:so you know how to apply this "razor", huh?
Then you don’t know how to apply Occams Razor.
I thought you were full of shite - thats why I questioned your Occamness
Posted on 10/17/23 at 4:49 pm to wmr
quote:yep, one of the reasons I think Israel is changing their story
There's video on X showing the hospital strike. It sounds and looks identical to an American JDAM missile. A high velocity, targeting strike.
The same video shows a Hamas missile for comparison.
It isn't a missile that just floated down and landed haphazardly.
and so hoping the Hamas spokesman is incorrect about it being an American strike - but it is election thieving usurping criminals in Washington that I dont trust - not one bit
Posted on 10/17/23 at 4:50 pm to wmr
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There's video on X showing the hospital strike. It sounds and looks identical to an American JDAM missile. A high velocity, targeting strike.
and someone here said the sound was identical to a Hamas rocket..
neither one of you posted a link..
eta: you posted a link as I was writing this.. will watch now
quote:
It isn't a missile that just floated down and landed haphazardly.
So your theory is IDF planned it at the same exact time as Hamas firing off a shite ton of rockets.. attacking a hospital that they didn’t warn to evacuate.. and all of the warnings to the other hospitals were decoys so that they could drop a JDAM on the hospital they really wanted to destroy..
At the end of the day, both sides said they didn’t do it, therefore it is either a 3rd party or someone is lying..
Who benefits from the lie?
This post was edited on 10/17/23 at 4:52 pm
Posted on 10/17/23 at 4:54 pm to BigBro
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Who benefits from the lie?
Whoever tells it
Posted on 10/17/23 at 4:56 pm to wmr
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The same video shows a Hamas missile for comparison. It isn't a missile that just floated down and landed haphazardly. You decide
Good link. More research required, but there is definitely an increased possibility that it was a JDAM hit the hospital.
Does Israel not have JDAM’s? What is the “Biden supplied it” comment someone made?
Posted on 10/17/23 at 4:56 pm to BigBro
I'm saying that idea that it was a missile that misfired and fell back down seems implausible when you see the velocity at which it hits the hospital.
I wouldn't expect a missile that fizzled to impact at such intensity.
I'm saying the official "Israel doesn't miss its targets" line is to me no more believable than they targeted the wrong area.
These are 20 year olds firing these things. Do you know any 20 year olds??
I wouldn't expect a missile that fizzled to impact at such intensity.
I'm saying the official "Israel doesn't miss its targets" line is to me no more believable than they targeted the wrong area.
These are 20 year olds firing these things. Do you know any 20 year olds??
Posted on 10/17/23 at 4:58 pm to BigBro
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Does Israel not have JDAM’s?
They do.
quote:
What is the “Biden supplied it” comment someone made?
We’re talking about some random guy making conclusions from YouTube videos of missile strikes in other places. I wouldn’t expect hard hitting analysis.
Posted on 10/17/23 at 4:59 pm to BigBro
quote:There are several stories out today
Does Israel not have JDAM’s? What is the “Biden supplied it” comment someone made?
- Errant roman candle that turned into a JDAM
- from IDF
- from USA
- JDAM belongs to Israel
- JDAM (which is made in USA) belongs to USA
Posted on 10/17/23 at 5:00 pm to wmr
Is there a way to confirm the audio on the hospital video wasn't altered? Without that, it seems like a failed ground to ground rocket.
Posted on 10/17/23 at 5:00 pm to lsu480
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Here is a link to the video. It looks like what you are saying is what is clearly a lie. LINK
Are you an utter fxcking moron? I mean how can you definitely say that the video proves anything other than a bunch of Pali’s went to Jahannam?
Posted on 10/17/23 at 5:00 pm to wmr
quote:
I'm saying that idea that it was a missile that misfired and fell back down seems implausible when you see the velocity at which it hits the hospital.
It could have been fired elsewhere. “Misfire” doesn’t have to mean it failed on the launch pad.
Could easily have just gone off course, been fired accidentally, or lost whatever shitty guidance mechanism it had.
Posted on 10/17/23 at 5:02 pm to Delacroix22
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Palestinian Health Ministry
You do realize Hamas runs the Palestinian Health Ministry, right?
Posted on 10/17/23 at 5:02 pm to BigBro
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At the end of the day, both sides said they didn’t do it, therefore it is either a 3rd party or someone is lying..
Does it matter? Most posters here plus Lindsay Graham have already decided Israel can kill every civilian in Gaza and still hold the moral high ground. Who cares if they targeted a hospital? Didn’t most of y’all want all of Gaza razed, turned into a plowed field, etc?
Posted on 10/17/23 at 5:06 pm to Earnest_P
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Didn’t most of y’all want all of Gaza razed, turned into a plowed field
My vote was for a water park.
Posted on 10/17/23 at 5:09 pm to Earnest_P
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Does it matter? Most posters here plus Lindsay Graham have already decided Israel can kill every civilian in Gaza and still hold the moral high ground. Who cares if they targeted a hospital? Didn’t most of y’all want all of Gaza razed, turned into a plowed field, etc?
Who cares? Well I care because IDF said they didn’t do it. If they had, I wouldn’t blame them after what happened, but i would be a little bit confused as to why they warned some hospitals, but not this one.
I care because someone is lying here..
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